I believe they risk losing some long-time players forever with the extent of the game-wide squish. Other facets of it are more appropriate for discussion elsewhere, but those profession points represent prior years for plenty of people. Recent xpacs have made skill level less important, which worked fairly well in terms of balancing the past and present.
"A lot of the challenges are less about gear level and more about doing the mechanics correctly," he said. "Having two or three percent more health or more throughput isn’t going to help you if you’re missing interrupts. Putting the time in to just practice the challenge you’re trying to overcome is probably the best use of your time once you’re at a reasonable outdoor-Argus level of gear."

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There is a new discovery system for crafting these armors. First you have to craft the base ilvl 355 armor (normal raid ilvl) which requires 110-120 profession skill (depends on which profession). After you craft this armor, you will discover a new recipe, which is ilvl 370 (heroic raid ilvl), and after you craft one from the ilvl 370 armor, you will discover a new recipe for an ilvl 385 armor (mythic raid ilvl).
There's a few profession crafted pets in BfA on the horizon - Battle for Azeroth Tailoring is getting a Hot Air Balloon style pet, and BfA Alchemy looks to be getting a brand new Transmute Meat to Pet. There are some mount buff consumables from both BfA Leatherworking in the form of a mount barding, and Blacksmithing in Battle for Azeroth will be able to craft Stirrups and Hoofplates to increase mount speed and allow you to interact with things while mounted.
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well reforging does the same thing, upgrades from profs make economy more alive and profs thenselves more usefull, by this logic we should also remove gems completely and posiibly flasks also...+ i never wrote anything about enchanting every piece of gear, just leg enchants from LW, cloak embroidery from tailoring, extra socket on wrists from BS and also weapon enchants are coming back I suppose (which is nullified by removal of neck enchants), this really isnt a hassle imo

Meanwhile, Tyrande Whisperwind and Malfurion Stormrage grow impatient regarding liberating Darkshore from the Horde's control, ultimately choosing to begin the offensive on their own, against Anduin's advice. In order to maximize their chances, Tyrande undergoes a ritual to turn herself into the Night Warrior, the avatar of Elune's most wrathful and warlike aspects. To counter this, Sylvanas orders several Night Elven heroes who fell in the Burning of Teldrassil to be raised as Dark Rangers to bolster her forces.
Is it profitable when you compare the time spent farming the ore to what you could have farmed elsewhere? No, it's not even half as valuable, at least not on my realm. That of course changes if you're on a server whose AH can supply a chain of golem production at a reasonable price, but that just isn't the case for me. I wish it was, could be a nice little side gig.
Patience and extra gold are rather important for the mounts so it might not be best for you right now. As for the operation (Wrath and Pandaria mounts right now), you need a miner (ore is cheaper than bars), transmutation master alchemists (living steel and some time eternals for daily cooldown, titanium and riddle of steel), and potentially multiple engineers (for more Sky Golems, plus at least one gnomish and one goblin if you want to do both rockets). The best way to source Pandaria mats cheaply is to buy up Spirit of Harmony when it's cheap and check often for mats cheaper than the conversion rate (1 Spirit buys 20 ghost iron ore, 5 trillium ore, 20 Kyparite, and more). Same with Eternals (for crafting titansteel)...you have to regularly check and grab them up whenever they're cheap (frozen orbs can be exchanged for eternals in old Dalaran too so watch for some cheap orbs as well). I also sell Golden Lotus on the side since it goes for more than the Spirit cost. (Edit: Also should point out that at the end of the expansion everyone is bored with nothing better to do so the profits on the mounts have dipped to as low as 5k.)

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I think that's server dependant. I make a lot of Golems, but the price on my server is high enough that you could buy all the living steel and still make about 20K (almost 200kg on AH). Its just that you proc all the way up the chain. You proc 20% of your trillium, and then 20% of your living steel. SoH and Ghost Iron are such low effort farms, too. 20% of 180 Trillium Bars at 500g is 18k more profit, 20% of 150 Living Steel at 3500g is another 105kg. That's an extra 25k profit per Golem. If they stop selling stockpile them for the next expansion, they always boom with the price of herbs. And a consistent 20% proc rate is the opposite of RNG, its extra free stuff as a benefit to completing an extra quest (not to mention for new alchemists the investment of leveling Vanilla Alchemy). You're looking for some get rich quick scheme, where the real way to build wealth is patience and volume. No market is going to be viable because you want it to be. Only because you make it viable.

The Alliance are able to unlock the void elves (exiled blood elves who can tap into shadow magic, trained by Alleria Windrunner after her experiences on Argus), Lightforged draenei (draenei members of the Army of the Light who fought the Legion on Argus), Dark Iron dwarves (fire-blooded cousins of the in-game dwarves of Ironforge), and Kul Tiran humans (larger, more heavyset versions of the in-game humans of Stormwind).[6]
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What? I said I giggled because he both cautioned people away from saturated markets and then pointed them to saturated markets. It had nothing to do with the sell rate of Golems since whether or not they sell quickly wasn't an issue. I was calculating for monthly profit, based on OPs example. In the case of an item that each toon can only make one of in a given month it doesn't matter how fast they sell since whether it sells on day 1 or day 20 it doesn't change how many more you can make on that toon.
They already are with the leveling changes and Blizz fucking up the API. AH focused players have been flying blind the last few weeks without API, as well as the re-introduction of unobtainable items that are now back in the game, as well as the enchanting changes (Dusts got squished already). Some of them are waiting it out, others are just doing their normal thing.

Making gold = work, people just want to be lazy and cash in but today a lot of people use TSM, have access to this reddit, youtube guides, etc. More and more people play wow to make gold so ofc the AH work gets harder, you just need to find your niche, i'm making gold with Tailoring from MoP and Cata for transmogs, not a lot of work to farm maths and i sell each piece around 10k, 7 pieces per week and i'm fine for a month.
Many things are payable in-game with WoW gold such as travelling through continents, buying mounts or new equipments. As the players are progressing in the questchains, they might face gold issues so they might need to learn Primary and Secondary professions to get some income by collecting Herbs, Skins or other raw materials what they can sell or just simply buy WoW gold from us - it's always the easier way out. There is a possibility to trade with other players face to face, in-game mail, or auction house, however the most valuable items can be Soulbound which means that they are cannot be traded once a player Bind it to him/herself. The biggest part of the trades are going through the Auction house where players can trade their goods between each other after paying the listing fee and the auction house tax.
Tbh high prices of enchants / gems / flasks / augment runes / food buffs are mostly an opportunity for casuals to make gold. Majority of them don't use these for themselves. How often do you do casual content and see casual players use flasks, gem and enchant their gear? I rarely do. It's common to pug a normal raid or similar content and see people ungemmed / unenchanted and using no consumables unless someone drops down a feast. It's simply not necessary and not required in casual content and people don't bother. Not even mentioning more casual levels like lfr and open world content.

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I have probably said this exact same thing a dozen times but it's worth saying a dozen more. Old world engineering is awesome right now. I make enough for my monthly token and then some simply buy selling auto hammers, gunshoes, and 1 sky golem. 100% of mats purchased from auction house. It's the easiest, laziest way I have ever made gold and i love it.
"'Going big' increases your production and decreases your waste. How does one make a lot of cards, though? Since they're tied to a daily cooldown, the options are to buy the cooldown from other scribes, or to have multiple scribes... If you plan to step it up and make decks, though, you'll need to either develop a network of scribes willing to sell you their daily cooldown, or make a bunch of alts into scribes."
Next, Enormous amount of mats? 4200 Ghost Iron Ore. That's it. Look at Depleted Kyparium Rocket or Turbo-charged Flying machine or the mechanohog, all have more complex recipes with mats requiring you to go to a vendor to get. Let's be honest I bought a bunch of Hula dolls because who wants to go to Shattrath anyway but c'mon. What you're saying is just not true. Its simple, its quick, and the procs aren't random (I transmuted 100 Trillium bars last night and got 122 bars). Most people don't need the procs, but optimizing allows you to make more gold, and ultimately this is a goldmaking subreddit. If you don't want to follow the advice, don't join that market.
Allied races aren’t much better. You can only earn them by grinding out reputation. It doesn’t take that long but casual players will need to invest a couple weeks primarily to it, and focusing on that grind will take you away from others, like earning gear. Each race has its own grind, but the things you do to work through it remain the same, adding to your boredom.
The last thing I want to say about this farm, you definitely need aoe damage dealers and some ranged people because mobs are not actually too close each other. So, you need to run around and gather mobs in one place with a monk statue and kill them with aoe. The party setups are simple and same with other farms actually and I don’t think not need to talk more about it.
Hey OC! Many productive people have made some really great spreadsheets/guides for players to progress and start BFA. I decided to compile the most well worked (public) guides I could find and shamelessly post them here. Some might have been posted on the forums before. I'll try update the post whenever something new is posted before release. All credits goes to the people who's dedicated hours upon hours on creating these guides.
Hazzikostas said his top recommendation prior to the BfA prepatch would be beating the Mage Tower challenges for those special artifact appearances. Not only are those some of the most attractive weapon skins in game, but the Mage Tower challenges will be going away when the prepatch hits, so you've only got a couple of weeks left to complete them.
Tbh high prices of enchants / gems / flasks / augment runes / food buffs are mostly an opportunity for casuals to make gold. Majority of them don't use these for themselves. How often do you do casual content and see casual players use flasks, gem and enchant their gear? I rarely do. It's common to pug a normal raid or similar content and see people ungemmed / unenchanted and using no consumables unless someone drops down a feast. It's simply not necessary and not required in casual content and people don't bother. Not even mentioning more casual levels like lfr and open world content.
In a few months only mats will be worth anything. At this point we have people with tens of millions of gold and people with just a few thousands. A flask takes tons of mats to make, and they will sell for well over 10k gold each, so the casual players won't afford them. When people realize that the rich guys will always take buying from the AH over farming their own mats, the prices will go even higher, then casuals will notice how expensive flasks are, and they will pick up alchemy and make more flasks, driving the prices down again.

That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.
As with Jewelcrafting, Alchemy is a bit more nuanced than looking at hourly rates. Flasks will provide you with a good baseline, but if you carefully watch the market and plan your transmutes with market trends, you could see huge gains like JC. Assuming you are focusing only on selling Flasks, you will make around 2138 gold/hour if you are also an Herbalist.
They already are with the leveling changes and Blizz fucking up the API. AH focused players have been flying blind the last few weeks without API, as well as the re-introduction of unobtainable items that are now back in the game, as well as the enchanting changes (Dusts got squished already). Some of them are waiting it out, others are just doing their normal thing.

The Alliance are able to unlock the void elves (exiled blood elves who can tap into shadow magic, trained by Alleria Windrunner after her experiences on Argus), Lightforged draenei (draenei members of the Army of the Light who fought the Legion on Argus), Dark Iron dwarves (fire-blooded cousins of the in-game dwarves of Ironforge), and Kul Tiran humans (larger, more heavyset versions of the in-game humans of Stormwind).[6]
 Highmountain tauren - "Descended from Huln, brave hero of the War of the Ancients, the Highmountain tauren honor the spirits of earth, river, and sky. Though the Legion invaded their lands and sowed seeds of distrust between them, the tribes of Highmountain stand united once more. At long last they are ready to venture beyond their sacred mountain and stand beside their kin from Kalimdor, lending their nobility and strength to the mighty Horde."
Came back from a good break again but really enjoying BFA so far. I've really been interested this time in getting my transmog sets, pets, mounts pretty much all collections / achievs. I've never been interested in this stuff since wow vanilla so it's like a whole new game to me, which is pretty cool! My current 5 man instance party is Resto Shaman, Resto Druid and 3 Hunters which works out really well. Double healer + 3 dps that can serve as tanks seems to cheese lots of encounters.

The Escalation patch has introduced several new scenarios with respective heroic modes that provide shiny new loot. It is still too early to predict which of these will demand the highest prices at the auction house or AH, since it can take weeks for players to work through the content and determine the value of the new drops compared to the existing items. Many expect the rarest and most prized drops to start commanding handsome prices starting June, so just keep your eyes peeled for popular WTB requests in general chat and high-selling items at the AH.
Otherwise, its a pretty lackluster expansion profession-wise as there are no useful sellable gear besides Inscription trinkets. Legion had good and variety stat gear across all professions (JC could make BiS socket-rings, now JC is the worst proff ever, so sad). I hope they change stuff soon but I'm not optimistic about it. You should probably level Pandaria Engineering and Alchemy as much as you can on your characters and invest in Ghost Iron Bar/Trillium Bar transmutes to either sell Living Steel or hold them to craft Sky Golem (30-40k profit each char per month). It's hard to maintain a steady flow of GIB/TB though. I "only" have 6 engineers and my stock drys up pretty quickly.
The idea of the expansion came up after the heroes of Azeroth dealt with so much external threats like the Burning Legion. In their own words, "so when we talk about what's the biggest threat in this world, is it the titan or is it the dwarf paladin that put a hammer in that titan's head"? As such, the enemy (at least during the early parts of the scenario) will be the opposite faction, a "vast army of world-destroying forces".[4]

That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.
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