Otherwise, its a pretty lackluster expansion profession-wise as there are no useful sellable gear besides Inscription trinkets. Legion had good and variety stat gear across all professions (JC could make BiS socket-rings, now JC is the worst proff ever, so sad). I hope they change stuff soon but I'm not optimistic about it. You should probably level Pandaria Engineering and Alchemy as much as you can on your characters and invest in Ghost Iron Bar/Trillium Bar transmutes to either sell Living Steel or hold them to craft Sky Golem (30-40k profit each char per month). It's hard to maintain a steady flow of GIB/TB though. I "only" have 6 engineers and my stock drys up pretty quickly.


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2. Island Expeditions. What?! you may ask, but it is simple. The transmog that drops, now rather frequently, from the expeditions sells well and for high amounts. Despite its somewhat common drop rate the fact that the loot table is so large means that people seeking certain transmog will be more likely to buy it than farm it. The parroted meme on r/wow that it is unrewarding only makes it better for someone like me. In the past two days from doing Island Expeditions on the side (about 20 total) I got 6 transmog items of TSM values between 15k and 150k. I sold 3 so far totaling 140k (Plundered Squid Caster: 50k because I wanted to be rid of it, Stinkrot Smasher: 69k, Razorfin Breastplate: 28k). Pet drops are a different story and while you can sell them, the fact that they need to be looted for the achievement means that the potential buyer pool is smaller.
The older brother of this potion originally came about in Cataclysm as the Potion of Treasure Finding, and is actually one of the best ways to make money. Since most Pandaria mats are constantly farmed, they usually sell for less than the Cataclysm mats. This makes using this form of the potion more effective for making gold. Not to mention that creatures die faster to level 90s since they were made for the previous expansion, making farming the treasure chests that drop rather easy.
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"The way the glyph market works on most realms is that there are a couple of people willing to put in the long hours who will have every available glyph posted profitably, and undercut within minutes of being undercut. They all reduce the price very minimally when undercutting, and the "competition" isn't about price, it's about who can relist more frequently.
I think you have legitimate concerns, but to be fair the squish already happened, the numbers just haven't caught up yet. You can already craft current-expansion items starting at crafting level 1, and those crafts generally award 3-5 levels each. So squishing the ranks from 800 down to 100, doesn't functionally change anything, it just allows crafts to only award 1 skill point per use, instead of 5.
That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.

Island expeditions require groups of three players to venture to islands with randomly spawned enemies and piles of AP. The island expedition ends once they collect a certain amount of AP, and they are granted about 300 AP as a reward — unfortunately, players don’t get any of the between 6,000 and 12,000 AP they collect during the expedition. These missions can take anywhere from three to 20 minutes, and never once offer any real challenge or depth.

I make about 60% of my profit from old world item sales, and 40% from BFA sales. What BFA provides me that old world items don't is immediate gratification- If someone posts a stack of 200 monelite ore 10% below market value, I can immediately buy and repost for 2k profit and have it sell in 2 minutes, and do this 20 times an hour. I currently have 2000 pieces of ghost iron sitting on the AH that aren't selling, and since I put it up I've sold plenty of flipped BFA materials. Ghost iron absolutely sells at a high rate, but it is slower than BFA mats.
It's hard to step out of the shadow of Legion, which was utterly fantastic in almost every way, to enter an expansion where you get one item per boss in the last expansion because the rules have been changed to force more grinding, where you have to grind reputation in the old expansion that you probably skipped because rep grinds suck JUST to unlock allied races (who aren't fully unique races since they recycle old content such as animations), where questing has SOMEHOW become boring again and where your new abilities are given by items you'll swap out every level, meanwhile being only boring passive effects no one cares about.
Other than that, it would be even better if we could get craftable gear up to raid level by obtaining rare materials found in raids/raid bosses (So if for example you raid on heroic, then you can upgrade your crafted gear with these rare raid materials to heroic level). I really liked going through raids not only for loot, but for rare crafting materials back in TBC so I could craft Stormherald/Lionheart as it gave crafting some solid meaning other than being there for the sake of having pre-raid / alt gear that is replaced easily.

You can giggle as much as you want but none of the golems i posted took more than 3 days to sell. Never, ever. OP made a quite good point on farming ore, as GIO sells higher than BfA ore, and it is much easier to farm. Suggestions that OP made are for everyone and not just for your realm ( where apparently old world enchanting mats cost way more than they should, taking into account how low the margin is). Making gold is not about being lucky to snipe something or to get something to drop, but to have constant income whatever is going around on your realm.


Next, Enormous amount of mats? 4200 Ghost Iron Ore. That's it. Look at Depleted Kyparium Rocket or Turbo-charged Flying machine or the mechanohog, all have more complex recipes with mats requiring you to go to a vendor to get. Let's be honest I bought a bunch of Hula dolls because who wants to go to Shattrath anyway but c'mon. What you're saying is just not true. Its simple, its quick, and the procs aren't random (I transmuted 100 Trillium bars last night and got 122 bars). Most people don't need the procs, but optimizing allows you to make more gold, and ultimately this is a goldmaking subreddit. If you don't want to follow the advice, don't join that market.
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World of Warcraft’s Legion expansion has been unleashed on the live servers and players are starting to arrive at The Broken Isles to plunder its untouched reserves of gold. Some are diving into the new dungeons and raids while others are undertaking the array of quests in the vast region. See how you, too, can gain immense amounts of gold in this exciting expansion.

All of this is to say that while you make some good points, such as not trying to farm what everyone else is farming, look for other opportunities, it's not always as simple as just going back to old content. I've heard from many others on this subreddit over the years that the examples I show above are neither unique to my server, nor are they new problems. This might be part of why so many people are expressing difficulty in finding their way.
Island expeditions require groups of three players to venture to islands with randomly spawned enemies and piles of AP. The island expedition ends once they collect a certain amount of AP, and they are granted about 300 AP as a reward — unfortunately, players don’t get any of the between 6,000 and 12,000 AP they collect during the expedition. These missions can take anywhere from three to 20 minutes, and never once offer any real challenge or depth. 

It is really, really a stark change of pace from WoD and Legion where just questing and killing things would result in at least a small but decent profit from a day's activities, typically of at least 1k and often 2k. But now to get that sort of return, I have to really focus on gold WQ's, not spend any money on anything that I don't absolutely have to, and do 45 minutes of Legion content. 

Inscription and darkmoon decks remain highly profitable still as long as you approach it with the right mindset and understand that it is a commodity market and the goal is not necessary to sell crafted decks. For me, it's an exercise in managing purchasing Linen & Herbs below market, balancing opportunity cost of converting linen to expulsom, and mass purchasing underpriced individual cards and relisting them at a profit but under the crafting cost so that they move. That's the primary goal, and you naturally complete decks that you sell but you don't go out of your way for.


But the system offers a painful and mindless grind. At worst, it feels like a cheap and artificial wall blocking you from playing your character to its full potential. Levels of your heart come fast at first, but the costs become prohibitive when you get up into level 20 or so. This wouldn’t be an issue if the most powerful Azerite gear didn’t require reaching level 22 to unlock even 75 percent of their full damage, leaving players left out of features from gear they’ve already collected. This means more grinding.

As for the classes themselves, they almost all play like slower and slightly less interesting versions of their Legion counterparts. This is thanks in large part to the loss of one ability from each class that came along with Legion’s own AP dumping system: the artifact weapon, which added a unique ability to every spec in the game. The loss of these abilities left most classes feeling frustrating and incomplete, and though Azerite gear was supposed to be the replacement, it missed the mark completely. There will always be one Azerite trait that reigns supreme for each spec, meaning that the frustration of that particular loop will be unavoidable as long as the system is in the game.
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Came back from a good break again but really enjoying BFA so far. I've really been interested this time in getting my transmog sets, pets, mounts pretty much all collections / achievs. I've never been interested in this stuff since wow vanilla so it's like a whole new game to me, which is pretty cool! My current 5 man instance party is Resto Shaman, Resto Druid and 3 Hunters which works out really well. Double healer + 3 dps that can serve as tanks seems to cheese lots of encounters.
All of my gold came from everyone buying stuff at a really marked up price for instance BS 2h mace if it proced epic i was making at least 125k per one and i was making batchs of 10 to 15 it was like 25k for blue and 125k+ for epics at the time. And i was buying the ore for like 16g to 40g a pop so huge profit. Im still trying to figure out what im gunna do now to rebuild it will be a slow process now.
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