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I couldn't resist anymore. Blizzard spits in the face of players. And the ingame community is lost. Just try to find a party to raid. YouI couldn't resist anymore. Blizzard spits in the face of players. And the ingame community is lost. Just try to find a party to raid. You can't. Try to find a party to mythic dungeons. You can't. You want to come to a raid to level up your gear? You can't. And why is that? Because every player will deny everybody's invite requests if their ilvl is about -10. Oh, yeah, and you will never raid or find a party to kill a boss if you don't have an achievement of this kill. Then how to get it, if everybody declines you? Good question, right?… Expand
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Sorry about the salt but jeez, stop listening to guides. Just check your AH, see what old mats are low in offer, and go get em. >FOR EXAMPLE<, ghost iron ore is a gold mine right now, cause nobody can sustain the demand, and prices are way up. Plus side being, old farms are optimized like hell. You can fly in the old world, mobs won't bother you, no one is there to take your nodes, and there are plenty of items to make the most out of it. Which means it's way easier and requires less effort than farming in BfA.
Cooking might be a fair surprise to some people but the thing is cooking is not a primary profession and usually it’s overlooked. I believe that’s why it’s still a valid method for making gold. The cooking products sell for like 20-30 gold each and people just don’t care about them. If you craft like 2000 cooking products in a day and get minimum 10 gold from each, that means 20k gold every single day.

Set sail for the previously unmapped isles of Azeroth. Battle in groups of three as you race against cunning rival intrudersor enemy playersto collect the island's resources. Constantly evolving challenges await as you traverse frozen landscapes near Northrend, open the gates of an abandoned Gilnean castle, navigate a war between elementals and more.

The world quests aren’t necessarily bad, but they aren’t good either. I wouldn’t mind killing five of a type of monster or fighting one particular boss a few times, but after seven or eight, it starts to wear pretty thin. But going from levels in the mid-20s can take nearly 30,000 AP, so you’ll need more than world quests if you want to get your heart up in a reasonable time.
I purchased the original game for real money, and all the expansions, and I pay real money every month to play this game. Well I checked out the tokens and if I wanted 5 million gold for that mount, I would need to spend 1200$ Canadian to get it. What???!!!!! Is this a joke?. If this is the norm, I'll just let the gold slowly fade away and that's when I stop playing. I've spent enough real money on this game. I get the intent: to help with the gold farmer situation. But at the expense of the legit player?
There is a new discovery system for crafting these armors. First you have to craft the base ilvl 355 armor (normal raid ilvl) which requires 110-120 profession skill (depends on which profession). After you craft this armor, you will discover a new recipe, which is ilvl 370 (heroic raid ilvl), and after you craft one from the ilvl 370 armor, you will discover a new recipe for an ilvl 385 armor (mythic raid ilvl).
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A "stat squish" and "item squish" was implemented to lower the numbers used in the game, e.g. a legendary item previously with a level of 1000 reduced to 265. Unique class-specific buffs are added back, i.e. mages' Arcane Brilliance and priests' Mark of Fortitude. Titanforging—a random event that raises the initial item level of an item gained via drops or rewards—is still in the game; however, if the item is one of those affected by the Heart of Azeroth, then that item cannot be titanforged.
Thing is, as in real life, opportunity cost is the real key on this. I'm getting 2 tokens per month quite easily with just 3 toons (1 maxed only (yeah, pretty damn inefficient but I lack a lot of time to play :p)) just by flipping couple of things, food, flask, potions, bags, shirts (yeah, shirts!!), etc etc. Every damn penny/gold counts :p, just have to learn how your realm market works, what niches exist, which items are needed and undersupplied and which are oversupplied.
I think that's server dependant. I make a lot of Golems, but the price on my server is high enough that you could buy all the living steel and still make about 20K (almost 200kg on AH). Its just that you proc all the way up the chain. You proc 20% of your trillium, and then 20% of your living steel. SoH and Ghost Iron are such low effort farms, too. 20% of 180 Trillium Bars at 500g is 18k more profit, 20% of 150 Living Steel at 3500g is another 105kg. That's an extra 25k profit per Golem. If they stop selling stockpile them for the next expansion, they always boom with the price of herbs. And a consistent 20% proc rate is the opposite of RNG, its extra free stuff as a benefit to completing an extra quest (not to mention for new alchemists the investment of leveling Vanilla Alchemy). You're looking for some get rich quick scheme, where the real way to build wealth is patience and volume. No market is going to be viable because you want it to be. Only because you make it viable.
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Blacksmith, Tailoring, Leatherworking all can create their own BoP gear like before with Blacksmithing able to potentially create indestructible versions and can repair in the field instantly (not that big), while Tailoring gets specific cloak enchants with some unique effects like not being able to to be dazed which is going to be very useful for Tailoring/Herbalists.

Sky golem is all profit if you do the smart thing and run old panda farms on multiple toons. Was running 10 farms at one point till bfa launched and was upto my eyeballs in trillium and Ghost iron. Just not been doing it lately, but those 10 farms was an hour a day if that and sustained 4 crafters and alchemists though could have sustained 8 easily.
Is there still the requirement to level previous expansions with the new system? TMK, old enchants don't sell fast. Unless the changes to leveling have caused old enchants to start selling (anything for a little more dmg and speed, right?)... For the health of the game I think this is a good change but I wonder why anyone would go back and level previous stuff, save goblins and completionist.

I'm holding a huge stock of herbs, flasks, pots, gems, fish, feasts/foods to sell when Uldir releases. Its already too close to start investing into that so I would just farm herbs and try to sell Anchor Weed as fast as possible right now when price is still high. Blizz can buff spawn rate anytime or reduce materials needed like they did with feasts.


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About the Blacksmithing, Leatherworking and Engineering professions; I feel like crafted gears are fairly different in BFA and not nearly as strong as it was in Legion. That’s why these three professions are at the bottom. Only reasonable things that come out of these professions are mounts. Engineers have Mecha-Mogul Mk2 which is a pretty good-looking mount but every engineer will try to make and sell mount, so I feel like the market is gonna have a lot of competition for that.
For future reference, it is a great option to purchase mounts and pets as a long-term investment. Not only do their prices scale well even when a new expansion drops, but there is always a demand for them. The only drawback to this strategy is you would need a hefty amount of initial wow gold investment and also maybe have to go through the motions of spending for a guild bank.

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The Escalation patch has introduced several new scenarios with respective heroic modes that provide shiny new loot. It is still too early to predict which of these will demand the highest prices at the auction house or AH, since it can take weeks for players to work through the content and determine the value of the new drops compared to the existing items. Many expect the rarest and most prized drops to start commanding handsome prices starting June, so just keep your eyes peeled for popular WTB requests in general chat and high-selling items at the AH.
So you're strapped for cash in World of Warcraft, and you need gold fast. Maybe there's an epic mount on the Auction House, or you're about to raid and need to finish enchanting your armor, or you're short on gold for glyphs. Whatever the reason, there's plenty of quick and mostly painless ways to farm up gold in WoW. Let's look at a few of the best ways.
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For scribes who can't and won't go all in with crafting Darkmoon Cards, an attractive alternative is to also dip into the other "odds and ends" inscription items. Particularly popular and profitable are BoE shoulder enchants (both blue and purple rarity), Runescrolls of Fortitude and the pair of companion kites. And if players had to choose only one of these, BoE should enchants are "easily one of the best money makers, in terms of gold per hour" because of their consistent demand and persistently solid wow gold price

Just kidding, but yeah people just need to actually look at market and if they have the slightest interest of making gold, there are tons of options. But people basicly want 100k gold per day, without having to research for that niche and neither do they want to take long. I honestly wouldn't even bother helping someone that doesn't put the slightest effort in.

Professions skills are split between expansions now, you'll have a separate skill bar for each expansion. There are still 950 profession levels in total, just that there is no one single progress bar with 1 to 950 for it anymore. Instead, there are 8 separate progress bars. (The only exception is Archaeology, because it will still have a 1-950 progress bar)
If you're just trying to sell one item once, TSM probably isn't the way to go. But you can set it up to do things like "find all BFA mining auctions selling for 75% of the market value", buy those, and then use a single button to "post all BFA mining auctions at 90% of the market value". This won't usually net you tens of thousands of gold, but it's a pretty reliable income stream for pretty low effort.

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Today's events set the stage for major changes in the game, including the expansion pre-patch, which will include all the game systems, cosmetic and other changes for the new expansion - basically, everything but the content in the expansion's new zones. There has been no official announcement of the prepatch launch date, but if I were a betting woman, I'd say July 10 looks awfully likely. [Edit: All right, or the 17th. But plan for the worst, people.]
"Since [patch] 7.3.5 we’re happy with the overall pace of leveling, he said. "If you’ve chosen to start a brand new character right at the end of an expansion, getting a character fully leveled up and geared up to complete endgame content before the expansion ends, there’s always going to be some time pressure there. That’s just part of the nature of choosing to do that at that stage in time."
That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.
2. Island Expeditions. What?! you may ask, but it is simple. The transmog that drops, now rather frequently, from the expeditions sells well and for high amounts. Despite its somewhat common drop rate the fact that the loot table is so large means that people seeking certain transmog will be more likely to buy it than farm it. The parroted meme on r/wow that it is unrewarding only makes it better for someone like me. In the past two days from doing Island Expeditions on the side (about 20 total) I got 6 transmog items of TSM values between 15k and 150k. I sold 3 so far totaling 140k (Plundered Squid Caster: 50k because I wanted to be rid of it, Stinkrot Smasher: 69k, Razorfin Breastplate: 28k). Pet drops are a different story and while you can sell them, the fact that they need to be looted for the achievement means that the potential buyer pool is smaller.
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When were professions really good, in your opinion? I remember having fun with them in Cata, but that was because I was playing the gold-making minigame of grinding the ore -> gem -> j/c boe's -> d/e mats cycle, back when gemming/enchanting your gear seemed absolutely necessary and people not in accordance with Mr. Robot were kicked from groups. Oh yeah, and don't forget the primary stat boost for BoP gear that was profession-specific that made gathering professions anathema to a raiding toon.
Strictly speaking, reselling items is not making gold. At best, you are "making gold" for yourself. There has been huge deflation with BfA launch (check token value lol) and personally I really want to see how Blizzard "economy" team is going to react, because effects of deflation are ranging from bad to terrible. No idea what is this experiment about?
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The hexweave bags are still a safe bet unless the new 32 crafting cost is like 10% of them. The one thing I'm more concerned about is the professions squish. This will make the old world items that we've been selling (TBC Dust still sells by 200 stacks easily) only required for Transmog and not leveling. This was a better option for a lot of professions (especially enchanting). Expecting their near-death with the next expansion. :(

 Nightborne - "Isolated behind a protective barrier for 10,000 years, the elves of Suramar grew increasingly dependent upon the arcane magic of the Nightwell. To protect this font of power, the leaders of the Nightborne struck a bargain with the Burning Legion that plunged their kingdom into civil war. After fighting for freedom from their demonic masters, the Nightborne seek allies in the Horde to help them reclaim their place in the world."
I'd rather not have to manually re-do all the settings for all my addons in-game unless it's absolutely necessary (since I don't have memorized what the exact settings are I use, so I'd have to take screenshots of them all and then remake the settings to match the screenshots). So I'd rather get some more input about this problem before I try troubleshooting it that way.

currently sitting at around 1.1-1.2m gp on my toons, a bunch in my mailbox (i like to clear sold auctions at the end the day), and 3 sky golems to sell. Not to mention i've bought myself a token, and given my brother 2 (he agreed to buy bfa for me vs 3 tokens), as well as blowing 250k on mythic boosts. I knwo others have done way better (hell i knew a guy that had made 4m in like 3 days during the DMC boom) but i'm pretty happy with it
I'll typically buy cards that are < 66% of my crafting cost in unlimited quantities. If I have high stocks, i'll try to repost at 1/8 of the deck's market rate. I don't care if someone is resetting the market because i WANT sales volume and if someone is trying to a reset it's usually low enough for them to buy you out. The point here is to constantly churn your inventory and adjust down with the market.
Valid pieces for Azerite empowerment are available for the chest, shoulder, and head slots of all classes. This equipment has multiple tiers of that can be unlocked, represented by a series of concentric wheels with icons representing individual powers; as individual powers are selected, they rotate into slots at the top of the interface, activating the selected benefit and locking out the others unless the player pays to reset their decision. Outer rings offer multiple choices, some based around the character's class and specification, others around the zone or circumstances in which the gear was acquired. The innermost circle offers no such options, instead being a boost to the level of the item itself, and thus providing a flat all-around benefit.
A: The gold value of a Token will be determined dynamically based on supply and demand. When you put a Token up for sale, you’ll be quoted the amount of gold you’ll receive upon a successful sale. If you then decide to place the Token up for sale, that amount is locked in, and the gold will be sent to your mailbox after another player purchases your Token.
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Tides of Vengeance will finally get launched today. All these new features will definitely surprise us all. However, based on the information raiditem.com knows, more new contents will come alongside Tides of Vengeance. And before you start a brand new journey, it's very necessary to check out what new features will come. You will find all the highlights below. In addition, don't forget to prepare enough WoW gold with you in case you may need to buy some items.
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Sky golem is all profit if you do the smart thing and run old panda farms on multiple toons. Was running 10 farms at one point till bfa launched and was upto my eyeballs in trillium and Ghost iron. Just not been doing it lately, but those 10 farms was an hour a day if that and sustained 4 crafters and alchemists though could have sustained 8 easily. 
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