I'm pretty excited about where the various gathering professions could go this expansion. Crafting expansions actually have good stuff to craft to prepare for the upcoming raid so gathering items will be needed. On top of that nodes are giving out less so more effort equals higher prices. Now where this goes past launch I'm not sure but stuff like Mining and Herbalism should be solid at the beginning.

The hexweave bags are still a safe bet unless the new 32 crafting cost is like 10% of them. The one thing I'm more concerned about is the professions squish. This will make the old world items that we've been selling (TBC Dust still sells by 200 stacks easily) only required for Transmog and not leveling. This was a better option for a lot of professions (especially enchanting). Expecting their near-death with the next expansion. :(


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But every new character made that wants to craft old expansion stuff will have to level using expansion specific materials. Stocking up on profession materials that are already high in demand can be a great idea. This will primarily be materials used to craft the various mounts. Ghost Iron, Trillium, Living Steel, Pyrium etc. are all great candidates to stock up on.
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Gathering (Mining, Herbing, Skinning, Fishing) – WoD almost totally killed gathering with the garrison but it made a big comeback for Legion. I don’t think BfA will be any different. Crafters always need materials and they will pay big bucks for it. While the crafting professions might have bigger profit margins, gathering has always seemed to produce a nice steady income. Materials always sell and usually sell fast. One thing I am watching for BfA is old materials. With the change to how you level professions, gone are the days of power leveling a new toons profs using only WoD mats. On one hand you won’t need to in order to do the BfA stuff. On the other hand if enough folks still like finishing off the prior xpac stuff, old material prices could go up and low level gathering might be more profitable similar to how Ghost Iron is now.
Why are you saying this would cut your margins down? If anything, it would increase your margins because all those scrapper mats are gonna be sold on the AH driving down the price, so each item is less expensive for you to craft, so your margins get bigger if keeping the same sale price. So long term this would probably drive down your sale price just due to supply and demand, so you would have to sell more to keep the same income, however that’s unrelated to your margins.
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I believe they risk losing some long-time players forever with the extent of the game-wide squish. Other facets of it are more appropriate for discussion elsewhere, but those profession points represent prior years for plenty of people. Recent xpacs have made skill level less important, which worked fairly well in terms of balancing the past and present.

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But the system offers a painful and mindless grind. At worst, it feels like a cheap and artificial wall blocking you from playing your character to its full potential. Levels of your heart come fast at first, but the costs become prohibitive when you get up into level 20 or so. This wouldn’t be an issue if the most powerful Azerite gear didn’t require reaching level 22 to unlock even 75 percent of their full damage, leaving players left out of features from gear they’ve already collected. This means more grinding.
But the system offers a painful and mindless grind. At worst, it feels like a cheap and artificial wall blocking you from playing your character to its full potential. Levels of your heart come fast at first, but the costs become prohibitive when you get up into level 20 or so. This wouldn’t be an issue if the most powerful Azerite gear didn’t require reaching level 22 to unlock even 75 percent of their full damage, leaving players left out of features from gear they’ve already collected. This means more grinding.
I'm aware that the LS chain can be xmuted up all the way up from GIO. This is great since it means ultimately you only need to track/acquire one item. The procs can certainly increase your profit margin, but as I said in my top-level comment the profitability of the whole endeavor is server-dependent. These numbers will of course vary from server to server, and for some it might be worth it.
I’ve been trying out engineering with a character I boosted from 70 to 100. When making stuff to sell on the AH as an Engineer, how do you do it efficiently? I’ve been told gathering the parts on your own takes too much time (like mining all the ores you need), but I don’t have an influx of gold to buy whatever I want off of the AH (example being Living Steel. Wanted to make one for myself until I saw how ridiculous the process to make them is and how expensive they are)
Is it profitable when you compare the time spent farming the ore to what you could have farmed elsewhere? No, it's not even half as valuable, at least not on my realm. That of course changes if you're on a server whose AH can supply a chain of golem production at a reasonable price, but that just isn't the case for me. I wish it was, could be a nice little side gig.

-Island Expeditions- Island expeditions was one of the new features I was looking forward to but Blizzard no longer makes games that are ready when they are ready but rather makes games ready when the deadline comes. Thus, many of the new features are completely stripped down from what was expected and it's literally just a small scenario you enter with two other players to continue to grind out your Azerite neck piece.
All of this is to say that while you make some good points, such as not trying to farm what everyone else is farming, look for other opportunities, it's not always as simple as just going back to old content. I've heard from many others on this subreddit over the years that the examples I show above are neither unique to my server, nor are they new problems. This might be part of why so many people are expressing difficulty in finding their way.
I have been playing since 2005. I have never really relied on the auction house to make my gold (I don't have the time, what with me having a life and all). In fact, I hardly ever use it. But as the years went by, I've always managed to get my gold total to progressively increase with each expansion. Not so with BFA. In fact, my total has actually gone down since BFA launch. Is this normal? Yes, I have been buying items from the rep guys, but I do that with every expansion. My gold started stagnating a bit before BFA, but since launch ... wow! I guess I can kiss that dinosaur mount goodbye!

​How much effort are you willing to put in? The days of clicking the mission table and collecting a big pile of gold a few hours later are behind us. Our gold-making options for this expansion are pretty much just farming (materials or rare drops), flipping, and professions. All of those things are a time investment. If you're not willing to do any of those things, you're probably not going to increase your income.


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I’ve been trying out engineering with a character I boosted from 70 to 100. When making stuff to sell on the AH as an Engineer, how do you do it efficiently? I’ve been told gathering the parts on your own takes too much time (like mining all the ores you need), but I don’t have an influx of gold to buy whatever I want off of the AH (example being Living Steel. Wanted to make one for myself until I saw how ridiculous the process to make them is and how expensive they are)
The older brother of this potion originally came about in Cataclysm as the Potion of Treasure Finding, and is actually one of the best ways to make money. Since most Pandaria mats are constantly farmed, they usually sell for less than the Cataclysm mats. This makes using this form of the potion more effective for making gold. Not to mention that creatures die faster to level 90s since they were made for the previous expansion, making farming the treasure chests that drop rather easy.

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WOTLK and Cata were my goblin training grounds as well (I remember fondly making 30k on a single day after a patch day with Inscription), but since Im only at Legion levels, Im struggling to find oportunities where to start invest and make profit. I've been carefully paying attention to the market and picking small batches of mats to flip. After 6 yrs out im slowly starting to pick up (so far i think i made 100k in a couple of months).
But then you have some professions, Inscription, Jewelcrafting, the gathering professions, etc. which don't seem to have any specific extra bonuses for being them. Inscription has been in a bad place for a while and that trend seems to be continuing in BfA, although considering we are not locked to certain glyphs anymore (like having to choose between only one glyph of many for things like Travel Form) I suppose there's a chance we will see some more profitability out of it.
Like I said, engineering is the best when you aren't worried about making gold. The Loot-a-rang is super useful, nitro-boosts are nice when they don't fail, and the glider cape enchant is nice too... you get wormholes to Pandaria, Draenor (make sure you have a glider), Legion, and Argus (as well as a couple old world teleport locations)...Jeeves (and to a lesser extent Reeves) and MOLL-E are also super useful (bank and mail access anywhere, repairs, etc.). 
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