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If you're a new player and buying gold (for some startup money) isn't an option, there's nothing wrong with gathering (especially if you're getting BfA...it'll be good gold initially if you farm BfA mats and sell high). You can make pretty good money just flipping stuff...and because Legion items are super risky now, it's a good time to get spirits of harmony (just buy what you can and sell it in in bigger stacks at higher costs or turn it into ore/bars or lotus to sell when that is profitable). I'd avoid putting all of your gold there though. Sometimes a bot or just someone returning to the game will dump 10+ stacks of 200 spirits cheap and tanks the markets for a bit. Flipping (if you get good at it) will make you more gold in than long run than farming but if you don't have much gold either is a step forward from here. They key to making gold is having the flexibility to lock up most of your gold in items and wait patiently to sell them at a good price but you gotta start small (or cheat like me...when I came back in December I just spent $100 on tokens and haven't spent money on anything other than the Collector's edition since. It's a lot easier to make gold if you already have some.
Everything you say tells me that you don't make and haven't tried to make Sky Golems for goldmaking. Time Consuming craft? It takes me 20 minutes per day to log in on 5 alts and produce jards. I might farm SoH, but that's a great Gold vs time spent farm. 20 minutes equals 10 SoH, 6-8 GI Lockboxes, and a ton of BoEs which I mostly vendor. So all in all 20 minutes of farming is about 10k gold. As someone that doesn't have that much time to play but still wants to pay his sub with gold Sky Golems are the only way to go. I'm in plenty of other markets, but SGs sell within 3 days for the best profit.
Despite all of these problems and this laundry list of glaring systematic issues, the crowning achievement of Battle for Azeroth’s endgame is that it still remains enjoyable all due to those two pillars of raiding and dungeons. That won’t last forever. As the expansion goes on, and the grind necessary to progress becomes even more demanding and the time spent in content that simply isn’t fun increases, it will be harder and harder for raiding and Mythic+ to carry the expansion along.
Inscription in BfA is going to see a new type of item - Rep Contracts! Battle for Azeroth Inscription users will be able to create rep contracts with the specific reps of BfA, and using one gets you bonus rep with that BfA faction any time you complete a Battle for Azeroth world quest. Overall, BfA professions look to be heading in a fun direction and I can't wait to get started crafting in professions once Battle for Azeroth comes to World of Warcraft.
Professions skills are split between expansions now, you'll have a separate skill bar for each expansion. There are still 950 profession levels in total, just that there is no one single progress bar with 1 to 950 for it anymore. Instead, there are 8 separate progress bars. (The only exception is Archaeology, because it will still have a 1-950 progress bar)
-Bugs- There aren't too many glaring bugs anymore, but you will certainly encounter some. The pathetic thing is that many of the bugs you'll encounter were reported repeatedly during Alpha/Beta and still weren't fixed. Some bugs were discovered after release and players were able to abuse game mechanics without repercussion unless they were one of the more serious offenders. This gave some players a significant advantage over others because they used exploits and at the start of an expansion, that is the time when it's most impactful.
"A lot of the challenges are less about gear level and more about doing the mechanics correctly," he said. "Having two or three percent more health or more throughput isn’t going to help you if you’re missing interrupts. Putting the time in to just practice the challenge you’re trying to overcome is probably the best use of your time once you’re at a reasonable outdoor-Argus level of gear."
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"There will be some story-driven quest content, world quests, with a bit of catch-up gear, telling the story of the Horde incursion into the night elven lands, that will lead up to the actual burning of Teldrassil," he said. "We want to be sure we’re actually telling that story in the game. That’s going to be our pre-launch event that unfolds over the course of a week and a half or so. That will be available to everyone who’s playing World of Warcraft, regardless of whether you own BfA or not.
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WOTLK and Cata were my goblin training grounds as well (I remember fondly making 30k on a single day after a patch day with Inscription), but since Im only at Legion levels, Im struggling to find oportunities where to start invest and make profit. I've been carefully paying attention to the market and picking small batches of mats to flip. After 6 yrs out im slowly starting to pick up (so far i think i made 100k in a couple of months).
For scribes who can't and won't go all in with crafting Darkmoon Cards, an attractive alternative is to also dip into the other "odds and ends" inscription items. Particularly popular and profitable are BoE shoulder enchants (both blue and purple rarity), Runescrolls of Fortitude and the pair of companion kites. And if players had to choose only one of these, BoE should enchants are "easily one of the best money makers, in terms of gold per hour" because of their consistent demand and persistently solid wow gold price
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Remember to NOT disenchant ALL of your quest rewards and drops. There is a new Blood of Sagaras in BfA called "Expulsion" and it is used in all primary tradeskills and it comes from using the Scrap-o-Matic 1000 (or Shred-Master Mk1) to break down the piece (explation below). In alchemy you can learn to transmute it (Transmute: Expulsom, which generates 5 Expulsom per day from 10 Akunda's Bite, 10 Winter's Kiss, and 3 Anchor Weed). So some pieces may get more explusion from them that they give dust/shards.
That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.
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Yes, that is easy, but it's not quick. Further down in my comments to OP I detailed the GIO farm, and reasonable yield expectations. I looked up a few guides/videos before commenting and most of them estimate a yield beween 800-1,000 GIO/hour. That lines up with my past experience with it as well. That'd be, taking the high yield end, 4.2 hours to farm the GIO for one toon's monthly needs.
The last thing I want to say about this farm, you definitely need aoe damage dealers and some ranged people because mobs are not actually too close each other. So, you need to run around and gather mobs in one place with a monk statue and kill them with aoe. The party setups are simple and same with other farms actually and I don’t think not need to talk more about it.
Set sail for the previously unmapped isles of Azeroth. Battle in groups of three as you race against cunning rival intruders—or enemy players—to collect the island’s resources. Constantly evolving challenges await as you traverse frozen landscapes near Northrend, open the mysterious gates of an abandoned Gilnean castle, navigate a war between elementals and more.
well reforging does the same thing, upgrades from profs make economy more alive and profs thenselves more usefull, by this logic we should also remove gems completely and posiibly flasks also...+ i never wrote anything about enchanting every piece of gear, just leg enchants from LW, cloak embroidery from tailoring, extra socket on wrists from BS and also weapon enchants are coming back I suppose (which is nullified by removal of neck enchants), this really isnt a hassle imo
The bones of Mythic+ are fairly simple, but it’s that simplicity that makes it Battle for Azeroth’s most rewarding mode. It’s fun, generally only takes about 40 minutes per dungeon and allows small groups of players to push themselves exactly as hard as they’d like. Battle for Azeroth’s dungeons are extremely well-designed and consistently entertaining, even after doing some of them 20-plus times, which makes the challenge of Mythic+ a great way to keep people playing.
This leaves players chasing an endless loop of trying to get higher level Azerite gear — which can only reliably be gained through raids and isn’t available in Mythic+ — but only the pieces with exactly the right traits will actually be an upgrade. It’s even possible that some items that should be huge upgrades are nullified by the loss of a specific trait that makes one ability do more damage than the others.
It’s a good thing that the previous expansion, Legion, was the best in the game’s history because Battle for Azeroth is coasting on its success. The major class redesigns that happened then remain in effect (though some are a little worse, and some a little better), and the combination of World Quests and Mythic+ dungeons means there’s always something to do, no matter your skill level or how long you can play.
If you're willing to dedicate, get tailoring for increased cloth drops, and look at group finder. Under custom search for "boe" and try to find and join a 2x4 farm group. It's basically just hours of leading npcs into a grinder for loot, but you'll make 20-40k an hour from cloth depending on server prices, and on average every 2-4 hrs you'll find a boe epic worth 80-250k, if luck permits.
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion’s crusade—but even as the world’s wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As the fires of war continue to roar, take the battle to both new and familiar lands with the Tides of Vengeance update, and join your allies to champion your faction’s cause.
I'm holding a huge stock of herbs, flasks, pots, gems, fish, feasts/foods to sell when Uldir releases. Its already too close to start investing into that so I would just farm herbs and try to sell Anchor Weed as fast as possible right now when price is still high. Blizz can buff spawn rate anytime or reduce materials needed like they did with feasts.
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I have probably said this exact same thing a dozen times but it's worth saying a dozen more. Old world engineering is awesome right now. I make enough for my monthly token and then some simply buy selling auto hammers, gunshoes, and 1 sky golem. 100% of mats purchased from auction house. It's the easiest, laziest way I have ever made gold and i love it.

I'm holding a huge stock of herbs, flasks, pots, gems, fish, feasts/foods to sell when Uldir releases. Its already too close to start investing into that so I would just farm herbs and try to sell Anchor Weed as fast as possible right now when price is still high. Blizz can buff spawn rate anytime or reduce materials needed like they did with feasts.
Meanwhile, Tyrande Whisperwind and Malfurion Stormrage grow impatient regarding liberating Darkshore from the Horde's control, ultimately choosing to begin the offensive on their own, against Anduin's advice. In order to maximize their chances, Tyrande undergoes a ritual to turn herself into the Night Warrior, the avatar of Elune's most wrathful and warlike aspects. To counter this, Sylvanas orders several Night Elven heroes who fell in the Burning of Teldrassil to be raised as Dark Rangers to bolster her forces.
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-Bugs- There aren't too many glaring bugs anymore, but you will certainly encounter some. The pathetic thing is that many of the bugs you'll encounter were reported repeatedly during Alpha/Beta and still weren't fixed. Some bugs were discovered after release and players were able to abuse game mechanics without repercussion unless they were one of the more serious offenders. This gave some players a significant advantage over others because they used exploits and at the start of an expansion, that is the time when it's most impactful.
The stirrup lasts for 2 hours. Two hours of farming my route earns me between 50-80k depending on Anchor Weed spawning on Moon Guard. The materials sell almost instantly if you price reasonably. I don't farm every day and I'm still sitting on almost a million gold. BfA is the expansion where I no longer pay Blizzard. They now pay me to play with how little gold tokens cost right now.
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Meanwhile, on the island continents introduced in the Battle for Azeroth expansion, players level 110 and above who have unlocked world quests can participate in Faction Assaults. These special events, alternating between Alliance and Horde territory, will give each faction a chance to band together to defend their territory or invade their enemy’s via a series of world quests. The prize? Survival! Also faction, gear and gold. Maybe even some pride.
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion's crusadebut even as the world's wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As this age-old conflict reignites, join your allies and champion your faction's causeAzeroth's future will be forged in the fires of war.

I'm pretty excited about where the various gathering professions could go this expansion. Crafting expansions actually have good stuff to craft to prepare for the upcoming raid so gathering items will be needed. On top of that nodes are giving out less so more effort equals higher prices. Now where this goes past launch I'm not sure but stuff like Mining and Herbalism should be solid at the beginning.
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