Is it profitable when you compare the time spent farming the ore to what you could have farmed elsewhere? No, it's not even half as valuable, at least not on my realm. That of course changes if you're on a server whose AH can supply a chain of golem production at a reasonable price, but that just isn't the case for me. I wish it was, could be a nice little side gig.
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Ya know. It's not the best source of gold, but it's all new gold: Run old raids and vendor all of the gear. In about an hour you can do Highmaul on LFR, Normal, Heroic, and Mythic and get about 6000g total. Some of the other raids aren't quite as fast, but generate similar amounts of gold. You can get some fun new (old?) transmog too if you haven't done much of it.
Strictly speaking, reselling items is not making gold. At best, you are "making gold" for yourself. There has been huge deflation with BfA launch (check token value lol) and personally I really want to see how Blizzard "economy" team is going to react, because effects of deflation are ranging from bad to terrible. No idea what is this experiment about?

JC Panthers: Instead of breaking them all down like I did with the golem, I'll just note that currently on my server the Orb of Mystery and the Living Steel combined cost 36,000g. All of the panthers, except the Onyx, sell for 32,000g. A loss of 4,000g/unit, not including the gems. Once we factor those in, at a mean value of ~200g/unit, the loss per Panther jumps to 8,000g.
Professions are skills used to create and enhance items (gears). You will start with one skill once your character has learned a profession. When you use the profession, your skill will increase. A profession’s higher skill will allow you to create more powerful items. If you change a primary profession, you will lose any skill you have made with your original profession. So it is important to choose your primary professions wisely.
Some mount items are bound to the original player - so you must develop the related profession in order to learn them - while others can be sold and traded. Some mounts require you to be skilled in the related profession in order to use them (especially Tailoring and Leatherworking, plus a couple of Engineering mounts), while others can be used by any character on your account. We usually indicate above the mount whether it can be traded or is bound, and whether it requires a specific profession to be able to use.
The illusions, meh. Last time I checked both TSM and the LGM spreadsheet both showed only a couple hundred gold return/unit, if they showed a profit at all (most didn't). They're slow movers as it stands, and there is already substantial competition over that market on my server anyway. So it's not worth the trouble of babysitting/cancelling/relisting for such a nominal return.
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Allied races aren’t much better. You can only earn them by grinding out reputation. It doesn’t take that long but casual players will need to invest a couple weeks primarily to it, and focusing on that grind will take you away from others, like earning gear. Each race has its own grind, but the things you do to work through it remain the same, adding to your boredom.
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Allied races aren’t much better. You can only earn them by grinding out reputation. It doesn’t take that long but casual players will need to invest a couple weeks primarily to it, and focusing on that grind will take you away from others, like earning gear. Each race has its own grind, but the things you do to work through it remain the same, adding to your boredom.


Conclusion - Overall, I am looking forward to BfA but I do have my concerns. The mid and high level rare mats look like they are going to come from Mythic Dungeons and Raids. This could make it so that crafting alts basically need to be end game geared up characters and doing that content in order to produce anything usable. Gathering will work and I think it makes sense to prioritize that at the beginning of the xpac. The rest I am taking a wait and see approach this time around. There still is plenty of time between now and launch for the devs to make drastic changes to the material requirements and item level of any crafted item or consumable. Therefore, I don’t think we can call anything a real “winner” or “loser” yet. What do you think?
Recipe ranks basically make you more efficient at making stuff, either by letting you craft the same number of items for fewer materials or getting a higher yield from the same amount of materials. As an example, having a one-star rank recipe lets you craft items at a relatively inefficient way, but when you acquire two-star or even three-star recipes, it can almost feel like you are crafting items out of thin air because of the low amount of materials required for each craft.
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Anyway I will go ahead & download the Twitch app like everyone's saying, but I still need to know whether my in-game addon settings will carry over automatically, or whether they'd return to default same as if they'd all been uninstalled in the curse client then reinstalled from scratch. Because if it's the latter then I will have to take screenshots of the settings on all my toons BEFORE I install the addons thru the Twitch client.

They already are with the leveling changes and Blizz fucking up the API. AH focused players have been flying blind the last few weeks without API, as well as the re-introduction of unobtainable items that are now back in the game, as well as the enchanting changes (Dusts got squished already). Some of them are waiting it out, others are just doing their normal thing.
Even then, margins are much better if you start with ghost iron ore, smelt it and transmute it with a transmute master. Every trillium proc is an extra 500g free, every LS proc is an extra 3000g. If you're just buying 30 living steel there is no profit when you account for jards energy sources being about 700g a piece on some servers. 4200 Ghost iron ore is what you need. Arrange your toons with professions to max that out.
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I purchased the original game for real money, and all the expansions, and I pay real money every month to play this game. Well I checked out the tokens and if I wanted 5 million gold for that mount, I would need to spend 1200$ Canadian to get it. What???!!!!! Is this a joke?. If this is the norm, I'll just let the gold slowly fade away and that's when I stop playing. I've spent enough real money on this game. I get the intent: to help with the gold farmer situation. But at the expense of the legit player?

Hey OC! Many productive people have made some really great spreadsheets/guides for players to progress and start BFA. I decided to compile the most well worked (public) guides I could find and shamelessly post them here. Some might have been posted on the forums before. I'll try update the post whenever something new is posted before release. All credits goes to the people who's dedicated hours upon hours on creating these guides.
I'll typically buy cards that are < 66% of my crafting cost in unlimited quantities. If I have high stocks, i'll try to repost at 1/8 of the deck's market rate. I don't care if someone is resetting the market because i WANT sales volume and if someone is trying to a reset it's usually low enough for them to buy you out. The point here is to constantly churn your inventory and adjust down with the market.

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-PvP- Completely broken for some classes and I mean broken going from both sides of the spectrum, from classes destroying everyone, to classes that can't even kill another player. It's fairly common for a weak class to lose to a powerful class even if the weak class outgears them by 50+ ilvls. That's how broken PvP is and Blizzard doesn't seem to know what to do to fix it other than do blanket damage nerfs/buffs as those are the only changes we've seen.
Each of those modes existed long before this latest expansion; raiding is a basic concept in MMOs, and Mythic+ was added in World of Warcraft’s last expansion. The problems with Battle for Azeroth’s endgame come from the systems it adds, which most often artificially gate progress where most of the fun can be found. If raids and Mythic+ are the carrot, we’re about to talk about the stick.

Next, Enormous amount of mats? 4200 Ghost Iron Ore. That's it. Look at Depleted Kyparium Rocket or Turbo-charged Flying machine or the mechanohog, all have more complex recipes with mats requiring you to go to a vendor to get. Let's be honest I bought a bunch of Hula dolls because who wants to go to Shattrath anyway but c'mon. What you're saying is just not true. Its simple, its quick, and the procs aren't random (I transmuted 100 Trillium bars last night and got 122 bars). Most people don't need the procs, but optimizing allows you to make more gold, and ultimately this is a goldmaking subreddit. If you don't want to follow the advice, don't join that market.

-PvP- Completely broken for some classes and I mean broken going from both sides of the spectrum, from classes destroying everyone, to classes that can't even kill another player. It's fairly common for a weak class to lose to a powerful class even if the weak class outgears them by 50+ ilvls. That's how broken PvP is and Blizzard doesn't seem to know what to do to fix it other than do blanket damage nerfs/buffs as those are the only changes we've seen.
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-Azerite Gear- This has been the worst experience for many players as it was advertised as offering the player many options for customizing their character but all players do is Google "Icy veins (Spec/Class) azerite ranks" and select the best one. This is expected and really only gives players the illusion of choice as they're always going to pick the best one. This could have been done far better by not offering necessarily just damage increases in traits but offering some of the Legion Legendary item effects in Azerite slots. You know, certain Azerite traits would be better for PvP, some for raiding, some for 5 mans, some for soloing old content, etc. The other problem with Azerite gear is that it's locked based on you grinding an endless amount of Azerite for your neck piece (basically the stuff that increases the level of your neck piece). So when you get an item that should be an upgrade, it really isn't because you don't have all the traits unlocked. This complaint about how horrible this system is could go on forever, but I'll just leave it at that, horrible.
Professions skills are split between expansions now, you'll have a separate skill bar for each expansion. There are still 950 profession levels in total, just that there is no one single progress bar with 1 to 950 for it anymore. Instead, there are 8 separate progress bars. (The only exception is Archaeology, because it will still have a 1-950 progress bar)

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I’ve been trying out engineering with a character I boosted from 70 to 100. When making stuff to sell on the AH as an Engineer, how do you do it efficiently? I’ve been told gathering the parts on your own takes too much time (like mining all the ores you need), but I don’t have an influx of gold to buy whatever I want off of the AH (example being Living Steel. Wanted to make one for myself until I saw how ridiculous the process to make them is and how expensive they are)

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Heart of Azeroth:[5] Our world is direly wounded. Players will be summoned via Magni Bronzebeard to Azeroth herself. She will gift players with a medallion called the [Heart of Azeroth]. Her life essence seeps from the world in the form of  [Azerite]. When players wearing the medallion come in contact with azerite, this sought after resource becomes a source of power for selected pieces of armor, providing players a way to level them up. This feature replaces the artifact system of World of Warcraft: Legion. Currently the plan of development is to limit the upgrade system to 3 pieces of armor. Players will be able to choose the stats they want to better fit their play-style.
The Heart of Azeroth is an artifact given to the player character from the world soul via Magni Bronzebeard. It is a necklace that can use the power of Azerite, the lifeblood of the embryonic titan Azeroth (See Plot, below). Azerite is similar in function to Legion's artifact power, in that it is gathered normally from playing the game and is used to upgrade an artifact; likewise, the Heart is similar in function to Legion's artifact weapons by having the capacity to be constantly upgraded. Unlike artifact weapons, however, the Heart is shared with all of the player's specializations and can empower all eligible pieces worn simultaneously.
Plus, I am a pet collector, and there are plenty of pets to collect in the new dungeon. Completing the dungeon’s challenge mode grants players a Mini Spider Tank battle pet. Continue playing on a weekly basis to earn currency towards items like the Unopened Gnomeregan Supply Box, Mechanical Cockroach, Schematic: Mechantula, Leper Rat Tail, and Rechargeable Alarm-O-Dog Battery.
You will get the recipes for these high level armors through a new discovery system. First you have to craft the base ilvl 355 armor (normal raid ilvl) which requires BfA Leatherworking 115. After you craft this armor, you will discover a new recipe, which is ilvl 370 (heroic raid ilvl), and after you craft one from the ilvl 370 armor, you will discover a new recipe for an ilvl 385 armor (mythic raid ilvl).
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This top-end difficulty was missing entirely from Legion’s first raid, Emerald Nightmare, which was cleared by top guilds in around 11 hours. Meanwhile the first guild to clear Uldir’s hardest difficulty, Mythic, spent somewhere around 70 hours attempting to kill the raid’s eight bosses. Even after all that time, the guild, Method, still had members say they loved the raid, and that it was one of their favorite in recent memory.
Blacksmith, Tailoring, Leatherworking all can create their own BoP gear like before with Blacksmithing able to potentially create indestructible versions and can repair in the field instantly (not that big), while Tailoring gets specific cloak enchants with some unique effects like not being able to to be dazed which is going to be very useful for Tailoring/Herbalists.
I’ve been trying out engineering with a character I boosted from 70 to 100. When making stuff to sell on the AH as an Engineer, how do you do it efficiently? I’ve been told gathering the parts on your own takes too much time (like mining all the ores you need), but I don’t have an influx of gold to buy whatever I want off of the AH (example being Living Steel. Wanted to make one for myself until I saw how ridiculous the process to make them is and how expensive they are)
Yes, that is easy, but it's not quick. Further down in my comments to OP I detailed the GIO farm, and reasonable yield expectations. I looked up a few guides/videos before commenting and most of them estimate a yield beween 800-1,000 GIO/hour. That lines up with my past experience with it as well. That'd be, taking the high yield end, 4.2 hours to farm the GIO for one toon's monthly needs.

Inscription – This one deserves its own category. I recently got back into this profession and I think it can make some serious gold at all levels due to how glyphs work now. On the flip side, glyphs are cosmetic one time uses only and the market can be really slow for the less interesting ones. I also recently installed TSM and I think you need some kind of addon like this to manage your production and sales if you are going to be in the glyph market. BfA is also keeping the tomes and adding in new reputation contracts so that could also provide a steady income.

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The hexweave bags are still a safe bet unless the new 32 crafting cost is like 10% of them. The one thing I'm more concerned about is the professions squish. This will make the old world items that we've been selling (TBC Dust still sells by 200 stacks easily) only required for Transmog and not leveling. This was a better option for a lot of professions (especially enchanting). Expecting their near-death with the next expansion. :(

They'll still be able to craft their items. Xmog crafters won't feel as hit because most of those patterns aren't terribly easy to come by. Mount sellers won't be affected. Recipes wont really be affected. Trade Goods will change a bit though, but that isn't inherently a bad thing. I can never find Firebloom on my server for sale, Mageweave and Silk are always pricey, etc. It might increase the amounts of those types of items and drive the price down, but that might be replaced by something else just as easily.
Allied races aren’t much better. You can only earn them by grinding out reputation. It doesn’t take that long but casual players will need to invest a couple weeks primarily to it, and focusing on that grind will take you away from others, like earning gear. Each race has its own grind, but the things you do to work through it remain the same, adding to your boredom.
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