Thanks for all the information! I’m between jobs atm so I only had enough money to get a month (haven’t played since legion launched) so I’ve been stressing about trying to somehow build my gold up to buy game time instead of enjoying it. I’ve had a lot of fun just trying to catch up on my Demon Hunter (maxed his level and am about to start the Mage Tower stuff and work towards reputation for allied races) and when it gets tedious, I’ll switch over to my engineer and craft stuff or level my new character I’m going to use for herbalism and alchemy. Hopefully when life is a bit steadier and my WoW standings improve, I can use all of this advice to make some $!
I couldn't resist anymore. Blizzard spits in the face of players. And the ingame community is lost. Just try to find a party to raid. YouI couldn't resist anymore. Blizzard spits in the face of players. And the ingame community is lost. Just try to find a party to raid. You can't. Try to find a party to mythic dungeons. You can't. You want to come to a raid to level up your gear? You can't. And why is that? Because every player will deny everybody's invite requests if their ilvl is about -10. Oh, yeah, and you will never raid or find a party to kill a boss if you don't have an achievement of this kill. Then how to get it, if everybody declines you? Good question, right?… Expand
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My second most anticipated new feature in the Tides of Vengeance update is the Battle for Darkshore Warfront. It’s the second cyclical battle between the Horde and Alliance, in which each faction takes turns gathering resources, fighting in a pitched raid battle and then controlling the Darkshore zone. In what I hope will be an improvement to the Warfronts feature, the controlling faction will gain access to diverse world quests in the zones they control, rather than the “kill x of y” quests from when it first launched.
The Alliance are able to unlock the void elves (exiled blood elves who can tap into shadow magic, trained by Alleria Windrunner after her experiences on Argus), Lightforged draenei (draenei members of the Army of the Light who fought the Legion on Argus), Dark Iron dwarves (fire-blooded cousins of the in-game dwarves of Ironforge), and Kul Tiran humans (larger, more heavyset versions of the in-game humans of Stormwind).[6]

For what it's worth, I like the leveling changes, but I also think that the profession changes are beneficial. Once they removed the utility of most professions; it became more of a hobby. Crafting should be fun. When it gave perks, it was fun, but Blizz, correctly, decided that it was creating forced gameplay (min/maxers always picked certain profs). So they changed it. Well when a prof doesn't give you any gameplay perks AND it's tedious...it's not fun. Especially if you're starting from scratch and outleveling your profs because you're blowing through levels so quickly.
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I'd rather not have to manually re-do all the settings for all my addons in-game unless it's absolutely necessary (since I don't have memorized what the exact settings are I use, so I'd have to take screenshots of them all and then remake the settings to match the screenshots). So I'd rather get some more input about this problem before I try troubleshooting it that way.

Patch 5.3, like all new updates, is attracting a throng of returning players, many of which will be undergeared and willing to spend Gold to catch up with the rest. While the profits might not be as lucrative as with the new items, there may be less competition here. The key here is scanning the market for in-demand leveling gear and producing the right amount to avoid getting stuck with an unsellable stack of outdated items.
Recipe ranks basically make you more efficient at making stuff, either by letting you craft the same number of items for fewer materials or getting a higher yield from the same amount of materials. As an example, having a one-star rank recipe lets you craft items at a relatively inefficient way, but when you acquire two-star or even three-star recipes, it can almost feel like you are crafting items out of thin air because of the low amount of materials required for each craft.
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This expansion suffers from the Warlords of Draenor (WoD) effect, initially, players will think this is a great expansion but upon investing some time into the game they'll realize this game is a disaster. The pre-patch should have been our first warning with how poorly designed and executed that fiasco was, but beyond that, let's look at what the expansion itself offers:
Gathering (Mining, Herbing, Skinning, Fishing) – WoD almost totally killed gathering with the garrison but it made a big comeback for Legion. I don’t think BfA will be any different. Crafters always need materials and they will pay big bucks for it. While the crafting professions might have bigger profit margins, gathering has always seemed to produce a nice steady income. Materials always sell and usually sell fast. One thing I am watching for BfA is old materials. With the change to how you level professions, gone are the days of power leveling a new toons profs using only WoD mats. On one hand you won’t need to in order to do the BfA stuff. On the other hand if enough folks still like finishing off the prior xpac stuff, old material prices could go up and low level gathering might be more profitable similar to how Ghost Iron is now.
 Highmountain tauren - "Descended from Huln, brave hero of the War of the Ancients, the Highmountain tauren honor the spirits of earth, river, and sky. Though the Legion invaded their lands and sowed seeds of distrust between them, the tribes of Highmountain stand united once more. At long last they are ready to venture beyond their sacred mountain and stand beside their kin from Kalimdor, lending their nobility and strength to the mighty Horde."
I'd like to add my personal experience as of a week ago in regards to illusions: I bought all of them for 10 silver being the highest bidder. They sell for 2-4k each usually, but it's a very slow market with little interest. They might be a nice addition to your portfolio if you can get the mats with little effort, otherwise it's not enough to warrant investing in it. At least on my server.
-New dungeons- About 3/4 are fairly decent, not too long not too short, but none of them are compelling, none make me say to my friends and guildies, "Hey, let's do this instance, I love the theme and encounters." They're dull but tolerable. The other 1/4 of the dungeons just aren't fun and you will groan when you get a mythic Keystone for the Underrot, the snake temple, or Waycrest Manor. Waycrest Manor is actually one of the better dungeons, however, with the new Infested affix, Waycrest Manor suffers from many game-breaking bugs that end in the entire instance being pulled due to doors not properly working as intended.

The thing I liked best about the wide shuffle of those days was that it made ALL of my alts feel valuable. I'd get some ore some was sent to the miner to be smelted and then on to the blacksmith for belt buckles. The rest went to the jewelcrafter to prospect. Some of those got cut, the rest got turned into jewelry that was either sold or disenchanted. The enchanter then converted those mats into scrolls. Meanwhile the army of alchemists transmuted that expansion's elemental material (volatiles, sorcerous, etc). It felt like a whole business operation.


There’s a lot of #content in the new expansion. It’s mostly locked behind a variety of gates, some of which players can’t even control. Warfronts are the best example. You might assume joining a Warfront is a simple matter of opening the group finder. Wrong! Warfronts are only accessible for a week at a time. It’s not precisely clear how often that week will come around (it’s based both on a time gate and on the opposing faction gathering resources) but, as of right now, it looks likely to be available just one week out of every four.
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Mythic+ has some similarity to raiding, but it’s designed for just five players, instead of the 10-to-30 that can make up a raid. This mode tasks players with clearing the game’s dungeons, but with specific changes that make them harder, scaling up until it’s impossible for groups to finish. Players receive a keystone in their inventory that assigns them their dungeon, one of the game’s 10, and gives the dungeon a level. This determines how difficult enemies are and what effects might make them harder. If the group completes the keystone in time, they get a new, higher-level stone; if they, don’t they get a lower-level stone.
Meanwhile, Tyrande Whisperwind and Malfurion Stormrage grow impatient regarding liberating Darkshore from the Horde's control, ultimately choosing to begin the offensive on their own, against Anduin's advice. In order to maximize their chances, Tyrande undergoes a ritual to turn herself into the Night Warrior, the avatar of Elune's most wrathful and warlike aspects. To counter this, Sylvanas orders several Night Elven heroes who fell in the Burning of Teldrassil to be raised as Dark Rangers to bolster her forces.
WOTLK and Cata were my goblin training grounds as well (I remember fondly making 30k on a single day after a patch day with Inscription), but since Im only at Legion levels, Im struggling to find oportunities where to start invest and make profit. I've been carefully paying attention to the market and picking small batches of mats to flip. After 6 yrs out im slowly starting to pick up (so far i think i made 100k in a couple of months).
All of this is to say that while you make some good points, such as not trying to farm what everyone else is farming, look for other opportunities, it's not always as simple as just going back to old content. I've heard from many others on this subreddit over the years that the examples I show above are neither unique to my server, nor are they new problems. This might be part of why so many people are expressing difficulty in finding their way.
I'm pretty excited about where the various gathering professions could go this expansion. Crafting expansions actually have good stuff to craft to prepare for the upcoming raid so gathering items will be needed. On top of that nodes are giving out less so more effort equals higher prices. Now where this goes past launch I'm not sure but stuff like Mining and Herbalism should be solid at the beginning.
As for the classes themselves, they almost all play like slower and slightly less interesting versions of their Legion counterparts. This is thanks in large part to the loss of one ability from each class that came along with Legion’s own AP dumping system: the artifact weapon, which added a unique ability to every spec in the game. The loss of these abilities left most classes feeling frustrating and incomplete, and though Azerite gear was supposed to be the replacement, it missed the mark completely. There will always be one Azerite trait that reigns supreme for each spec, meaning that the frustration of that particular loop will be unavoidable as long as the system is in the game.
"Essentially the Scrap-o-Matic 1000 works like the Obliterum Forge in Legion however one major difference from Legion is that you can use it to break down any gear obtained that is from the Battle for Azeroth expansion, including dungeon/raid drops, quest rewards, world drops and crafted gear. Apart from a chance at getting Expulsom you will also get ore, gems, leather, occasional enchanting mats (from scrapping cloth gear) and other crafting mats. The best way to obtain Expulsom seems to be from breaking down rare/epic gear you obtain from dungeons and raids, killing rare elites and doing world quests, it also drops rarely from BFA uncommon quality items."
"A lot of the challenges are less about gear level and more about doing the mechanics correctly," he said. "Having two or three percent more health or more throughput isn’t going to help you if you’re missing interrupts. Putting the time in to just practice the challenge you’re trying to overcome is probably the best use of your time once you’re at a reasonable outdoor-Argus level of gear."
All I know is that Scribes are going to make bank with those Contracts. All guides talks about them and everyone will want them. Better ride that money wave while we can. Other than that, Alchemy and Jewelcrafting are always safe bets with tradable and marketable goods. Engineers can get an item for followers to bring back more Azerite, ot sure how much of a headstart that's gonna give them. The rest of the professions honestly looks kinda lame since most of everything is BoP anyway.
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The best way to collect AP is through world quests, a system that allows players to complete menial tasks to earn moderate rewards. A finite amount of AP spawns on the map through these quests — generally at least 2,000 a day. I’ve likely done most of these quests close to 20 times in the course of preparing my various characters in the 45 days since the expansion launched. In some cases, I’ve replayed them as many as 50 times.

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I don't think that made professions all that useful. And it was a huge burden to the fun of getting new gear. I like that if I get a new piece of gear in a raid I can generally equip it right away. Couldn't do that when half the gear you get need enchants/gems/whatever. Why not just bring back re-forging then? Though I did like upgrading gear when that was a thing.
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-Bugs- There aren't too many glaring bugs anymore, but you will certainly encounter some. The pathetic thing is that many of the bugs you'll encounter were reported repeatedly during Alpha/Beta and still weren't fixed. Some bugs were discovered after release and players were able to abuse game mechanics without repercussion unless they were one of the more serious offenders. This gave some players a significant advantage over others because they used exploits and at the start of an expansion, that is the time when it's most impactful.


-Global Cooldown- Almost all spells are now on the global cooldown. This has slowed gameplay down quite a bit and you won't get to use the full potential of your spells cooldowns. For example, you cast a spell that increases your damage for 15 seconds, after the global cooldown and you're able to cast again, you now only have 13.5 seconds to make use of the remaining time. There are far too many spells on the global cooldown that shouldn't be.
-Global Cooldown- Almost all spells are now on the global cooldown. This has slowed gameplay down quite a bit and you won't get to use the full potential of your spells cooldowns. For example, you cast a spell that increases your damage for 15 seconds, after the global cooldown and you're able to cast again, you now only have 13.5 seconds to make use of the remaining time. There are far too many spells on the global cooldown that shouldn't be.
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Ya know. It's not the best source of gold, but it's all new gold: Run old raids and vendor all of the gear. In about an hour you can do Highmaul on LFR, Normal, Heroic, and Mythic and get about 6000g total. Some of the other raids aren't quite as fast, but generate similar amounts of gold. You can get some fun new (old?) transmog too if you haven't done much of it.
"Essentially the Scrap-o-Matic 1000 works like the Obliterum Forge in Legion however one major difference from Legion is that you can use it to break down any gear obtained that is from the Battle for Azeroth expansion, including dungeon/raid drops, quest rewards, world drops and crafted gear. Apart from a chance at getting Expulsom you will also get ore, gems, leather, occasional enchanting mats (from scrapping cloth gear) and other crafting mats. The best way to obtain Expulsom seems to be from breaking down rare/epic gear you obtain from dungeons and raids, killing rare elites and doing world quests, it also drops rarely from BFA uncommon quality items."

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When it comes to farming and acquiring stashes of gold, perhaps the first thing that comes to mind is doing raids or dungeons. That sounds great, but there are a few issues. First and foremost, it'd be virtually impossible to solo new content for maximum profit. Then, being in a group means that the earned gold is split and you're only getting a fraction of what you could be getting if you were on your own. Last but not least, finding reliable and good groups for raids and dungeons might prove to be quite the challenge.
Edit: Emphasized AGAIN here and there that these were examples because apparently nobody reads the whole thing before talking about how this is a guide or that these markets/farms specifically require effort etc... No one should just read about examples and think "Okay I'll do it". You should just see if it works, if it does you CAN do it, else you find something ELSE.
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They're segmenting professions by expansion. So that 100 skill level for legion is just for legion. There'd be another 100 skill in draenor blacksmithing or whatever. It's a better way to do it. As /u/UristMcUselessNoble said above: From what I've understood, instead of one one 1-800 profession, each Expac will have it's own profession level, which mean Classic will be 1-300, Cata will be 1-75, Legion 1-100 etc.
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 Kul Tiran human (8.1.5) - "Kul Tiras was founded by fearless explorers who sailed uncharted waters in search of adventure. As a key member of the Alliance of Lordaeron, the Kul Tiran navy dominated the seas of Azeroth with its legendary fleet. But after years of turmoil and hardship, the kingdom grew isolated and vulnerable to dark influences. Thanks to the help of brave heroes, House Proudmoore has been restored and Kul Tiras is poised to fight alongside the valiant Alliance once more."
All I know is that Scribes are going to make bank with those Contracts. All guides talks about them and everyone will want them. Better ride that money wave while we can. Other than that, Alchemy and Jewelcrafting are always safe bets. Engineers can get an item for followers to bring back more Azerite, ot sure how much of a headstart that's gonna give them. The rest of the professions honestly looks kinda lame since most of everything is BoP anyway.

Baelgun - Alliance Baelgun - Horde Balnazzar - Alliance Balnazzar - Horde Blackhand - Alliance Blackhand - Horde Blackmoore - Alliance Blackmoore - Horde Blackrock - Alliance Blackrock - Horde Blackscar - Alliance Blackscar - Horde Bloodfeather - Alliance Bloodfeather - Horde Bloodhoof - Alliance Bloodhoof - Horde Bloodscalp - Alliance Bloodscalp - Horde Blutkessel - Alliance Blutkessel - Horde Boulderfist - Alliance Boulderfist - Horde Bronze Dragonflight - Al... Bronze Dragonflight - Horde Bronzebeard - Alliance Bronzebeard - Horde Burning Blade - Alliance Burning Blade - Horde Burning Legion - Alliance Burning Legion - Horde Burning Steppes - Alliance Burning Steppes - Horde Bladefist - Alliance Bladefist - Horde Blade's Edge - Alliance Blade's Edge - Horde Booty Bay - Alliance Booty Bay - Horde Borean Tundra - Alliance Borean Tundra - Horde
-Warfronts- I liked the idea of warfronts because it blends elements of Warcraft III with World of Warcraft, however, it's not a PvP battleground or instance, it's PvE so given time, it's a guaranteed win so many people are starting to AFK in the warfront. Beyond that, there is only one warfront to participate in right now. Also, when preparing for a warfront, Blizzard presents you with daily quests to help "aid" the warfront, however, your daily quest turn ins have no bases on the progression of warfront. The warfront will continue to advance at the same rate no matter if you do zero quests or everyone does all the quests.
All of my gold came from everyone buying stuff at a really marked up price for instance BS 2h mace if it proced epic i was making at least 125k per one and i was making batchs of 10 to 15 it was like 25k for blue and 125k+ for epics at the time. And i was buying the ore for like 16g to 40g a pop so huge profit. Im still trying to figure out what im gunna do now to rebuild it will be a slow process now.
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