In a few months only mats will be worth anything. At this point we have people with tens of millions of gold and people with just a few thousands. A flask takes tons of mats to make, and they will sell for well over 10k gold each, so the casual players won't afford them. When people realize that the rich guys will always take buying from the AH over farming their own mats, the prices will go even higher, then casuals will notice how expensive flasks are, and they will pick up alchemy and make more flasks, driving the prices down again.

When you launch the game you can choose from two opposite factions (Alliance and Horde), 7 different races for each factions and 6 different classes with very wide mixture of the character's appearance. World of Warcraft play involves the completion of quests while traveling through the story line, gaining experience from the quests to level up the characters and picking up the useful loot to trade with other players. Once a player feel strong enough, or simply just wishes to find some better items, players can visit dungeons where a group can fight together to get better loot from stronger monsters. Near end-game the biggest dungeons require a raid with up to forty players to face and accomplish the hardest challenges for the most valuable items. Another big part of the game is the Player vs Player (PvP) fights where gamers can play againts each other in 2vs2, 3vs3 arenas or battlegrounds for PvP rewards.
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-Azerite Gear- This has been the worst experience for many players as it was advertised as offering the player many options for customizing their character but all players do is Google "Icy veins (Spec/Class) azerite ranks" and select the best one. This is expected and really only gives players the illusion of choice as they're always going to pick the best one. This could have been done far better by not offering necessarily just damage increases in traits but offering some of the Legion Legendary item effects in Azerite slots. You know, certain Azerite traits would be better for PvP, some for raiding, some for 5 mans, some for soloing old content, etc. The other problem with Azerite gear is that it's locked based on you grinding an endless amount of Azerite for your neck piece (basically the stuff that increases the level of your neck piece). So when you get an item that should be an upgrade, it really isn't because you don't have all the traits unlocked. This complaint about how horrible this system is could go on forever, but I'll just leave it at that, horrible.

Yes, that is easy, but it's not quick. Further down in my comments to OP I detailed the GIO farm, and reasonable yield expectations. I looked up a few guides/videos before commenting and most of them estimate a yield beween 800-1,000 GIO/hour. That lines up with my past experience with it as well. That'd be, taking the high yield end, 4.2 hours to farm the GIO for one toon's monthly needs.

My second most anticipated new feature in the Tides of Vengeance update is the Battle for Darkshore Warfront. It’s the second cyclical battle between the Horde and Alliance, in which each faction takes turns gathering resources, fighting in a pitched raid battle and then controlling the Darkshore zone. In what I hope will be an improvement to the Warfronts feature, the controlling faction will gain access to diverse world quests in the zones they control, rather than the “kill x of y” quests from when it first launched.
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I liked the little discount for the weekend special. I was used to buying other expansions that included a 30 game time card, this did not. However I was prompted to spend gold I had build up and saved, previously playing the game, and it cost me 117000 gold deducted from my combined characters on my old main server. Big download, so I had to wait to play it until the next morning. Gameplay is different, I was used to the old talent point system, alas I had 10 lvl 100 characters, max level garrisons and shipyard. I did the only thing thinkable without having to take time to vendor unusable items that I thought had meaning. Created the new class. Tutorial started at 98, to get you to 100 with a slow intro back into the game. Auction house prices are pretty high with how long this game has been around. I hope to play more soon, but not like the hardcore grind years past. All I know is I am spending remaining gold saved on biggest affordable bags, and whatever flight trainings to keep me moving fast. Game looks good, no lag, I already enjoy the storyline again.

In Battle for Azeroth, the fall of the Burning Legion has set off a series of disastrous incidents that reignites the furious rivalry between the noble Alliance and the mighty Horde. As a new age of warfare begins, Azeroth’s heroes must set out on a harrowing journey in search of new allies, race to claim the world’s mightiest resources to turn the tides of war, and fight on several fronts to determine which side will lead Azeroth into its uncertain future.
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It’s a good thing that the previous expansion, Legion, was the best in the game’s history because Battle for Azeroth is coasting on its success. The major class redesigns that happened then remain in effect (though some are a little worse, and some a little better), and the combination of World Quests and Mythic+ dungeons means there’s always something to do, no matter your skill level or how long you can play.

Similar problems have risen in the leveling system, which automatically scales to the player’s level and equipment. For the most part, you’ll vaporize enemies more quickly as you gain power, but there are some weird dips. Many players complained they felt less powerful at level 119 than at level 110, a problem I experienced myself. And world PvP remains a strange and whacky world where level and class balance issues make wins and losses feel destined instead of earned.
All are used for some crafts still, and depending on your server you can profit solely by buying mats on the AH, doing your transmute CD, and reposting. Heck many don't even need transmute master to be viable. This can be especially good for those of us who have been playing continuously for years and as a result have alts, many of which that aren't even max level, that we used back then that can still be used.
There’s a lot of #content in the new expansion. It’s mostly locked behind a variety of gates, some of which players can’t even control. Warfronts are the best example. You might assume joining a Warfront is a simple matter of opening the group finder. Wrong! Warfronts are only accessible for a week at a time. It’s not precisely clear how often that week will come around (it’s based both on a time gate and on the opposing faction gathering resources) but, as of right now, it looks likely to be available just one week out of every four.

I got a lucky 350 BoE drop just after hitting 120 about 48 hours after the expansion launched. Was able to sell it for 400k. I had chosen an alt on a different faction as a main this expansion, so I was glad to have more than the 25k I’d previously had. A couple days later I saw another 350 on the AH for 50k and flipped it for 300. That plus farming Monelite Ore as I do World Quest has me sitting on about 1mil.
But every new character made that wants to craft old expansion stuff will have to level using expansion specific materials. Stocking up on profession materials that are already high in demand can be a great idea. This will primarily be materials used to craft the various mounts. Ghost Iron, Trillium, Living Steel, Pyrium etc. are all great candidates to stock up on.
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion’s crusade—but even as the world’s wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As this age-old conflict reignites, join your allies and champion your faction’s cause—Azeroth’s future will be forged in the fires of war.
Use enchanting to craft tomes of illusions. Every expansion has its own mats, and they're all the easiest thing in the world to farm. You run a dungeon with an enchantor, disenchant everything, gather some elementals or gems for pandaria, and craft a tome which can sell for a good amount if you babysit it well. Sold a draenor one for 22k the other day, and Pandaria ones for 7k and 9k. >THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. If the prices aren't interesting on your server, find something else. It's that simple.<
It is really, really a stark change of pace from WoD and Legion where just questing and killing things would result in at least a small but decent profit from a day's activities, typically of at least 1k and often 2k. But now to get that sort of return, I have to really focus on gold WQ's, not spend any money on anything that I don't absolutely have to, and do 45 minutes of Legion content.
 Dark Iron dwarf - "Known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination, Dark Iron dwarves have a turbulent history with the other clans. A failed coup in Ironforge ignited the War of the Three Hammers, and many of the Dark Iron once fought in the service of Ragnaros the Firelord. Though one faction is pledged to Queen-Regent Moira Thaurissan, others refuse to stand alongside their kin. The Alliance seeks a united Dark Iron clan to harness the power of Azerite and aid their struggle against the Horde."

All I know is that Scribes are going to make bank with those Contracts. All guides talks about them and everyone will want them. Better ride that money wave while we can. Other than that, Alchemy and Jewelcrafting are always safe bets with tradable and marketable goods. Engineers can get an item for followers to bring back more Azerite, ot sure how much of a headstart that's gonna give them. The rest of the professions honestly looks kinda lame since most of everything is BoP anyway.
Sky golem is all profit if you do the smart thing and run old panda farms on multiple toons. Was running 10 farms at one point till bfa launched and was upto my eyeballs in trillium and Ghost iron. Just not been doing it lately, but those 10 farms was an hour a day if that and sustained 4 crafters and alchemists though could have sustained 8 easily.
That's mostly it, but it's linked to the fact you can transmute ghost iron bars into trillium bars, which can be transmuted into Living Steel. So ghost iron is really really useful for sky golems and panther mounts, because they require 4 Living Steel's, which means 24 trilliums or 240 Ghost Iron bars, if you wanna go that way instead of farming the trillium itself!
Short term raw material flipping. I think there is a thread up here about it atm actually. If you are buying to hold for more than a week you're opening yourself up to a lot of risk. Buy in the morning and sell at night, and/or buy on the weekend to sell during the week if you have a decent raid population on your server. Start with something you understand, sell from that market and then expand.
While the proc is random the law of large numbers will mean that over a large enough sample size your actual yield will be the same as the average proc rate. If you transmute 10 times then you can't rely on the 20% proc rate, once you pass 1000 though, you're average will start approaching the true rate of 1.2 bars per transmute. If you are in this for the long haul it then makes a lot of sense to use the average proc rate to calculate your profits, especially considering the fact that all the items involved sell really well.
If you're a new player and buying gold (for some startup money) isn't an option, there's nothing wrong with gathering (especially if you're getting BfA...it'll be good gold initially if you farm BfA mats and sell high). You can make pretty good money just flipping stuff...and because Legion items are super risky now, it's a good time to get spirits of harmony (just buy what you can and sell it in in bigger stacks at higher costs or turn it into ore/bars or lotus to sell when that is profitable). I'd avoid putting all of your gold there though. Sometimes a bot or just someone returning to the game will dump 10+ stacks of 200 spirits cheap and tanks the markets for a bit. Flipping (if you get good at it) will make you more gold in than long run than farming but if you don't have much gold either is a step forward from here. They key to making gold is having the flexibility to lock up most of your gold in items and wait patiently to sell them at a good price but you gotta start small (or cheat like me...when I came back in December I just spent $100 on tokens and haven't spent money on anything other than the Collector's edition since. It's a lot easier to make gold if you already have some.

That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.


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Patch 5.3, like all new updates, is attracting a throng of returning players, many of which will be undergeared and willing to spend Gold to catch up with the rest. While the profits might not be as lucrative as with the new items, there may be less competition here. The key here is scanning the market for in-demand leveling gear and producing the right amount to avoid getting stuck with an unsellable stack of outdated items.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not turning my nose at people who struggle to do well (I'm not exactly a mastermind myself), but the legion expansion has made people lazy in terms of finding their jackpot system. We need to get used to gold making going from the "all for all" system to the current "all for one" system and the first step is understanding that the WoW economy is never decidedly made good or bad as if it somehow exists along the same lines as class design and gameplay mechanics.
EXPLORE TWO FABLED KINGDOMS – As a champion of the Horde, travel to Zandalar to persuade the trolls to lend their naval might to the war effort. As a defender of the Alliance, sail to the seafaring kingdom of Kul Tiras, home of Jaina Proudmoore, and rally its inhabitants to fight for your cause. Once you’ve successfully recruited one of these proud kingdoms to your faction, infiltrate the enemy’s newly claimed territory.
That's where i'm at now. I got into it late. I had 40k to start. Sold fish up to about 100k total starting capital. Started making and selling decks when they were going for 80-200k on my server. Morons have repeatedly undercut decks by 30-60k at a time even after the market has been reset (not by me) multiple times. Now the decks are 25-80k... I did manage to make 3.5m gross in the last 2 weeks. Now the individual cards are selling for MUCH less than the decks so I may stop crafting myself and just start buying the individuals... idk where to go from there though. Do you think the decks will hold any value moving forward? I'm kind of hoping for something similar to obliterum in legion to increase the ilvl and keep them relevant.
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