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All of this is to say that while you make some good points, such as not trying to farm what everyone else is farming, look for other opportunities, it's not always as simple as just going back to old content. I've heard from many others on this subreddit over the years that the examples I show above are neither unique to my server, nor are they new problems. This might be part of why so many people are expressing difficulty in finding their way.

Eventually, the Alliance finishes its preparations and launches an attack on the Zadalari capital of Dazar'zalor, their goal being to sever the budding alliance between the Zandalari and the Horde by dismantling the Golden Fleet and capturing King Rastakhan. Despite Anduin and Jaina's desire to capture him alive, Rastakhan is overwhelmed by the power of his pact with the Loa Bwonsamdi, and the Alliance champions are forced to slay him. Enraged by Rastakhan's death, Horde champions launch a vicious counterattack on the withdrawing Alliance forces, which ends with both Jaina and High Tinkerer Mettatorque gravely wounded. As the Alliance leadership debates their next move, Sylvanas, infuriated by the Horde's defeat, resurrects Jaina's long dead brother Derek Proudmoore as a Forsaken, an act that horrifies the surviving Horde leaders, with the intent to use him as a sleeper agent to destroy the Proudmoore family from within.
Hazzikostas said his top recommendation prior to the BfA prepatch would be beating the Mage Tower challenges for those special artifact appearances. Not only are those some of the most attractive weapon skins in game, but the Mage Tower challenges will be going away when the prepatch hits, so you've only got a couple of weeks left to complete them.
While the proc is random the law of large numbers will mean that over a large enough sample size your actual yield will be the same as the average proc rate. If you transmute 10 times then you can't rely on the 20% proc rate, once you pass 1000 though, you're average will start approaching the true rate of 1.2 bars per transmute. If you are in this for the long haul it then makes a lot of sense to use the average proc rate to calculate your profits, especially considering the fact that all the items involved sell really well.
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DMF Cards the first ~72 hours of the expansion. Every deck was selling for 500k-750k after 24 hours, so I spent all the time I had and just shuffled bracers info expulsum. Constantly spammed trade that I was buying herbs at just about every price, and just went to town. Once the weekend hit (Friday), I sold my last few decks (made 44 total in those 3 days I think), and listed all my leftover cards on the AH at a decent cut.

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EXPLORE TWO FABLED KINGDOMS – As a champion of the Horde, travel to Zandalar to persuade the trolls to lend their naval might to the war effort. As a defender of the Alliance, sail to the seafaring kingdom of Kul Tiras, home of Jaina Proudmoore, and rally its inhabitants to fight for your cause. Once you’ve successfully recruited one of these proud kingdoms to your faction, infiltrate the enemy’s newly claimed territory.
When it comes to farming and acquiring stashes of gold, perhaps the first thing that comes to mind is doing raids or dungeons. That sounds great, but there are a few issues. First and foremost, it'd be virtually impossible to solo new content for maximum profit. Then, being in a group means that the earned gold is split and you're only getting a fraction of what you could be getting if you were on your own. Last but not least, finding reliable and good groups for raids and dungeons might prove to be quite the challenge.

Changes were also made to levelling in earlier content with Legion's 7.3.5 patch. The level-scaling tech introduced in Legion not only be continued in the new continents of Kul Tiras and Zandalar, but was also be applied to content from prior expansions, allowing larger level brackets for lower level zones. Further, as previous expansions are now included in the base game, the level ranges for those expansions are now broadened, allowing players to spend more time leveling in preferred expansions and avoid others entirely. Some examples include a zone like Westfall having its level bracket (at 10–15 as of Legion) increased to 10–60, whilst continents such as Outland and Northrend sharing a 60–80 level bracket. The aim of this change is to encourage more player choice whilst levelling and to allow players to experience the full story of a particular zone without overlevelling the relevant quests.


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I’ve been trying out engineering with a character I boosted from 70 to 100. When making stuff to sell on the AH as an Engineer, how do you do it efficiently? I’ve been told gathering the parts on your own takes too much time (like mining all the ores you need), but I don’t have an influx of gold to buy whatever I want off of the AH (example being Living Steel. Wanted to make one for myself until I saw how ridiculous the process to make them is and how expensive they are)

I'd like to add my personal experience as of a week ago in regards to illusions: I bought all of them for 10 silver being the highest bidder. They sell for 2-4k each usually, but it's a very slow market with little interest. They might be a nice addition to your portfolio if you can get the mats with little effort, otherwise it's not enough to warrant investing in it. At least on my server.
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Consumables (Alchemy, Jewelcrafting, Enchanting) – When I have gotten a toon to max level and managed to get all of the end game recipes/ranks, I have done well. However, I never have much luck with the lower level items. It feels to me like if someone is going to buy a gem, enchant, or flask, they want the best one or none at all. Maybe that comes down to the servers I play on, but it does make sense compared to how I play my own toons. I either am going to gear up a toon for endgame or not worry about it at all. Alchemy does have the benefit of transmutes which even the low level ones can make some decent gold. JC does have the MOP mounts and pets if you can get the recipes for them but otherwise these professions feel like max level or bust to me.
currently sitting at around 1.1-1.2m gp on my toons, a bunch in my mailbox (i like to clear sold auctions at the end the day), and 3 sky golems to sell. Not to mention i've bought myself a token, and given my brother 2 (he agreed to buy bfa for me vs 3 tokens), as well as blowing 250k on mythic boosts. I knwo others have done way better (hell i knew a guy that had made 4m in like 3 days during the DMC boom) but i'm pretty happy with it
Sky Golem factory; Use all your spare alts to craft those. Level their Pandaria engineering to 75 by farming ghost iron ore (mostly) and start doing their daily CD's. It's super easy to find informations on how to do it quickly, look it up. 4-5 alts = 4-5 golems a month = a million gold a month if golems go for 200k+ like on my server (250k on mine)
"Since [patch] 7.3.5 we’re happy with the overall pace of leveling, he said. "If you’ve chosen to start a brand new character right at the end of an expansion, getting a character fully leveled up and geared up to complete endgame content before the expansion ends, there’s always going to be some time pressure there. That’s just part of the nature of choosing to do that at that stage in time."
Edit: Emphasized AGAIN here and there that these were examples because apparently nobody reads the whole thing before talking about how this is a guide or that these markets/farms specifically require effort etc... No one should just read about examples and think "Okay I'll do it". You should just see if it works, if it does you CAN do it, else you find something ELSE.
My second most anticipated new feature in the Tides of Vengeance update is the Battle for Darkshore Warfront. It’s the second cyclical battle between the Horde and Alliance, in which each faction takes turns gathering resources, fighting in a pitched raid battle and then controlling the Darkshore zone. In what I hope will be an improvement to the Warfronts feature, the controlling faction will gain access to diverse world quests in the zones they control, rather than the “kill x of y” quests from when it first launched.
"'Going big' increases your production and decreases your waste. How does one make a lot of cards, though? Since they're tied to a daily cooldown, the options are to buy the cooldown from other scribes, or to have multiple scribes... If you plan to step it up and make decks, though, you'll need to either develop a network of scribes willing to sell you their daily cooldown, or make a bunch of alts into scribes."
-Azerite Gear- This has been the worst experience for many players as it was advertised as offering the player many options for customizing their character but all players do is Google "Icy veins (Spec/Class) azerite ranks" and select the best one. This is expected and really only gives players the illusion of choice as they're always going to pick the best one. This could have been done far better by not offering necessarily just damage increases in traits but offering some of the Legion Legendary item effects in Azerite slots. You know, certain Azerite traits would be better for PvP, some for raiding, some for 5 mans, some for soloing old content, etc. The other problem with Azerite gear is that it's locked based on you grinding an endless amount of Azerite for your neck piece (basically the stuff that increases the level of your neck piece). So when you get an item that should be an upgrade, it really isn't because you don't have all the traits unlocked. This complaint about how horrible this system is could go on forever, but I'll just leave it at that, horrible.
"The way the glyph market works on most realms is that there are a couple of people willing to put in the long hours who will have every available glyph posted profitably, and undercut within minutes of being undercut. They all reduce the price very minimally when undercutting, and the "competition" isn't about price, it's about who can relist more frequently.
That's mostly it, but it's linked to the fact you can transmute ghost iron bars into trillium bars, which can be transmuted into Living Steel. So ghost iron is really really useful for sky golems and panther mounts, because they require 4 Living Steel's, which means 24 trilliums or 240 Ghost Iron bars, if you wanna go that way instead of farming the trillium itself!
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"Players can get these powerful items, empower them, and which gameplay-affecting powers they want to use or focus on without feeling like they’re just playing the lottery and hoping they get the Pyroblast Bracers or whatever the magical legendary they need to enable the rotation they want to do," Hazzikostas said. "Instead, they can just look at the dungeon journal, look at raid bosses, see where the azurite armor with the powers they want comes from, and focus on getting that and leveling their artifact naturally, in a much more controlled way."
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Honestly TL:DR of any guide. Is learn your markets, it's as simple as that. Learn who's in it, learn what's profitable, watch different time tables. I've earned 2 million profit OFF 1 market and half set up TSM. I've barely tried before this I was a hardcore raider, only made gold over the years through BOE farming and run sales (which are goood, don't get me wrong) but I want to be making the multiple gold capped characters.
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I believe they risk losing some long-time players forever with the extent of the game-wide squish. Other facets of it are more appropriate for discussion elsewhere, but those profession points represent prior years for plenty of people. Recent xpacs have made skill level less important, which worked fairly well in terms of balancing the past and present.

For future reference, it is a great option to purchase mounts and pets as a long-term investment. Not only do their prices scale well even when a new expansion drops, but there is always a demand for them. The only drawback to this strategy is you would need a hefty amount of initial wow gold investment and also maybe have to go through the motions of spending for a guild bank.


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Hazzikostas posted the changes in a new blog post on the official WoW forums. Season 2 will go live on January 22 with new Warfronts, Mythic + PvP, World Content, a new Titanforging cap and much more. We’ve included his post down below and have also included a follow up post about rewarding loot for Emissaries and Assault quests based on loot specialization.
World of Warcraft’s Legion expansion has been unleashed on the live servers and players are starting to arrive at The Broken Isles to plunder its untouched reserves of gold. Some are diving into the new dungeons and raids while others are undertaking the array of quests in the vast region. See how you, too, can gain immense amounts of gold in this exciting expansion.
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Island expeditions require groups of three players to venture to islands with randomly spawned enemies and piles of AP. The island expedition ends once they collect a certain amount of AP, and they are granted about 300 AP as a reward — unfortunately, players don’t get any of the between 6,000 and 12,000 AP they collect during the expedition. These missions can take anywhere from three to 20 minutes, and never once offer any real challenge or depth.
Similar problems have risen in the leveling system, which automatically scales to the player’s level and equipment. For the most part, you’ll vaporize enemies more quickly as you gain power, but there are some weird dips. Many players complained they felt less powerful at level 119 than at level 110, a problem I experienced myself. And world PvP remains a strange and whacky world where level and class balance issues make wins and losses feel destined instead of earned.
Tbh high prices of enchants / gems / flasks / augment runes / food buffs are mostly an opportunity for casuals to make gold. Majority of them don't use these for themselves. How often do you do casual content and see casual players use flasks, gem and enchant their gear? I rarely do. It's common to pug a normal raid or similar content and see people ungemmed / unenchanted and using no consumables unless someone drops down a feast. It's simply not necessary and not required in casual content and people don't bother. Not even mentioning more casual levels like lfr and open world content. 

TSM shopping list was super awesome, but it feels like a lot of clunk for what I wanted to do. I keep hearing ppl talk about server daily avg prices, region prices, etc. But I couldn't find any of that in TSM, even with importing groups/operations from someone. And wtf is an operation? I assume it's just a script that TSM runs to do price compares, etc? I'm convinced all the ones I tried didnt work.
Level 120 comes and goes. Island Expeditions have unlocked, but it turns out they’re not much fun, and the most rewarding versions are only accessible to premade groups. You turn to Warfronts only to realize they’re not available this week. Fine. You can always grind out better gear. Except as you do, you notice your new gear has higher Azerite requirements than your old gear, which means your shiny new items have fewer unlocked traits than what they replaced. Discouraged, you decide to roll as one of the cool new Allied Races. Except you can’t because they’re all locked behind reputation grinds.
Charge Into the Warfronts: Fight on the battlefields of a large-scale, 20-player cooperative Warfront to claim a key strategic location. Capture resources to build your faction’s forces, lead the charge as your troops lay siege to objectives, and fight the enemy commander to claim victory in this new PvE mode inspired by classic Warcraft RTS battles.
The expansion is set immediately after the events of Legion.[4] Two continents have been added within the Great Sea between the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor: Kul Tiras, one of the major human kingdoms, and Zandalar, the homeland of Azeroth's trolls.[4] While the Alliance and Horde will initially travel to one continent respectively, both continents will be available to both factions at level 120.[4]
Those are low prices indeed! In those cases, just look into something else, but there's always gold to be made, as you pointed out :) And there is no shame in being unefficient, not everyone wants to spend their time getting optimized for goldmaking, if you can pay for your month I think it's great already! That's what kept me into it, the fact that I'm paying by playing, I love it
If you're willing to dedicate, get tailoring for increased cloth drops, and look at group finder. Under custom search for "boe" and try to find and join a 2x4 farm group. It's basically just hours of leading npcs into a grinder for loot, but you'll make 20-40k an hour from cloth depending on server prices, and on average every 2-4 hrs you'll find a boe epic worth 80-250k, if luck permits.

Sky golem is all profit if you do the smart thing and run old panda farms on multiple toons. Was running 10 farms at one point till bfa launched and was upto my eyeballs in trillium and Ghost iron. Just not been doing it lately, but those 10 farms was an hour a day if that and sustained 4 crafters and alchemists though could have sustained 8 easily.


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I think you have legitimate concerns, but to be fair the squish already happened, the numbers just haven't caught up yet. You can already craft current-expansion items starting at crafting level 1, and those crafts generally award 3-5 levels each. So squishing the ranks from 800 down to 100, doesn't functionally change anything, it just allows crafts to only award 1 skill point per use, instead of 5.
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Set sail for the previously unmapped isles of Azeroth. Battle in groups of three as you race against cunning rival intruders—or enemy players—to collect the island’s resources. Constantly evolving challenges await as you traverse frozen landscapes near Northrend, open the gates of an abandoned Gilnean castle, navigate a war between elementals and more. Tides of Vengeance adds two new Island Expeditions to the mix and two new random events, as well as updated rewards.
It's not about me, it's about people having trouble making gold with BfA professions for example, or having herb prices drop too low to make it worth the effort, I just meant to say there are other ways of making gold. I personnally make most my gold out of BfA for example, so I wanted to point out it's not a necessary thing to stick to the current extension.

You can giggle as much as you want but none of the golems i posted took more than 3 days to sell. Never, ever. OP made a quite good point on farming ore, as GIO sells higher than BfA ore, and it is much easier to farm. Suggestions that OP made are for everyone and not just for your realm ( where apparently old world enchanting mats cost way more than they should, taking into account how low the margin is). Making gold is not about being lucky to snipe something or to get something to drop, but to have constant income whatever is going around on your realm.

About the Blacksmithing, Leatherworking and Engineering professions; I feel like crafted gears are fairly different in BFA and not nearly as strong as it was in Legion. That’s why these three professions are at the bottom. Only reasonable things that come out of these professions are mounts. Engineers have Mecha-Mogul Mk2 which is a pretty good-looking mount but every engineer will try to make and sell mount, so I feel like the market is gonna have a lot of competition for that.
-Bugs- There aren't too many glaring bugs anymore, but you will certainly encounter some. The pathetic thing is that many of the bugs you'll encounter were reported repeatedly during Alpha/Beta and still weren't fixed. Some bugs were discovered after release and players were able to abuse game mechanics without repercussion unless they were one of the more serious offenders. This gave some players a significant advantage over others because they used exploits and at the start of an expansion, that is the time when it's most impactful.
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As for the classes themselves, they almost all play like slower and slightly less interesting versions of their Legion counterparts. This is thanks in large part to the loss of one ability from each class that came along with Legion’s own AP dumping system: the artifact weapon, which added a unique ability to every spec in the game. The loss of these abilities left most classes feeling frustrating and incomplete, and though Azerite gear was supposed to be the replacement, it missed the mark completely. There will always be one Azerite trait that reigns supreme for each spec, meaning that the frustration of that particular loop will be unavoidable as long as the system is in the game.

Some mount items are bound to the original player - so you must develop the related profession in order to learn them - while others can be sold and traded. Some mounts require you to be skilled in the related profession in order to use them (especially Tailoring and Leatherworking, plus a couple of Engineering mounts), while others can be used by any character on your account. We usually indicate above the mount whether it can be traded or is bound, and whether it requires a specific profession to be able to use.
"There will be some story-driven quest content, world quests, with a bit of catch-up gear, telling the story of the Horde incursion into the night elven lands, that will lead up to the actual burning of Teldrassil," he said. "We want to be sure we’re actually telling that story in the game. That’s going to be our pre-launch event that unfolds over the course of a week and a half or so. That will be available to everyone who’s playing World of Warcraft, regardless of whether you own BfA or not.
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