It is really, really a stark change of pace from WoD and Legion where just questing and killing things would result in at least a small but decent profit from a day's activities, typically of at least 1k and often 2k. But now to get that sort of return, I have to really focus on gold WQ's, not spend any money on anything that I don't absolutely have to, and do 45 minutes of Legion content.
Unfortunately this game misses the mark. The visual and audio experiences are truly this expansions only carry. The questing is the same as itUnfortunately this game misses the mark. The visual and audio experiences are truly this expansions only carry. The questing is the same as it has always been, artifacts and world quests aren't new, more skills taken away from the last expansion (nothing new added to replace them). Island Expeditions, the heralded new feature, is a complete letdown; it's just a scenario with a timer on it. The story is jarring and feels out of place somehow. For a full priced game (that's just an expansion) I can't help but feel a bit ripped off.… Expand

I'll typically buy cards that are < 66% of my crafting cost in unlimited quantities. If I have high stocks, i'll try to repost at 1/8 of the deck's market rate. I don't care if someone is resetting the market because i WANT sales volume and if someone is trying to a reset it's usually low enough for them to buy you out. The point here is to constantly churn your inventory and adjust down with the market.


Came back from a good break again but really enjoying BFA so far. I've really been interested this time in getting my transmog sets, pets, mounts pretty much all collections / achievs. I've never been interested in this stuff since wow vanilla so it's like a whole new game to me, which is pretty cool! My current 5 man instance party is Resto Shaman, Resto Druid and 3 Hunters which works out really well. Double healer + 3 dps that can serve as tanks seems to cheese lots of encounters.
Any decently geared 90 can complete a Pit of Saron trash mob run in 3-5 minutes. Each mob in the heroic version has a chance of dropping a Battered Hilt, which sell on the auction house for around 10k. Video guides will show the best route to take to pull all the trash mobs at once if you're a class with good AOE; other classes can simply pull less mobs at a time and loot as they go. While this method is a little less reliable than farming Vale-- after all, you're left to the mercy of RNG gods-- it has a higher chance of huge windfall because you could get a multiple hilts every run. Pull the mobs, burn 'em down, and cross your fingers when you loot. On top of the hilts, there's plenty of vendor trash, BoP epics for enchanters, and even a trinket that turns you into a gorilla. You will have to have completed the Forge of Souls in Icecrown Citadel to access this particular dungeon, though.

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This expansion suffers from the Warlords of Draenor (WoD) effect, initially, players will think this is a great expansion but upon investing some time into the game they'll realize this game is a disaster. The pre-patch should have been our first warning with how poorly designed and executed that fiasco was, but beyond that, let's look at what the expansion itself offers:
They'll still be able to craft their items. Xmog crafters won't feel as hit because most of those patterns aren't terribly easy to come by. Mount sellers won't be affected. Recipes wont really be affected. Trade Goods will change a bit though, but that isn't inherently a bad thing. I can never find Firebloom on my server for sale, Mageweave and Silk are always pricey, etc. It might increase the amounts of those types of items and drive the price down, but that might be replaced by something else just as easily.
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-Global Cooldown- Almost all spells are now on the global cooldown. This has slowed gameplay down quite a bit and you won't get to use the full potential of your spells cooldowns. For example, you cast a spell that increases your damage for 15 seconds, after the global cooldown and you're able to cast again, you now only have 13.5 seconds to make use of the remaining time. There are far too many spells on the global cooldown that shouldn't be.


So much new stuff. The war questline expands. Island expeditions get a couple of new locations to explore. Azerite armor gets tweaked so it’s slightly less stupid than it already is. While we wait for the servers to go back up, Blizzard’s prepared a handy survival guide for Tides of Vengeance. I suggest looking it over, or else risk not surviving at all.
-Bugs- There aren't too many glaring bugs anymore, but you will certainly encounter some. The pathetic thing is that many of the bugs you'll encounter were reported repeatedly during Alpha/Beta and still weren't fixed. Some bugs were discovered after release and players were able to abuse game mechanics without repercussion unless they were one of the more serious offenders. This gave some players a significant advantage over others because they used exploits and at the start of an expansion, that is the time when it's most impactful.
In a few months only mats will be worth anything. At this point we have people with tens of millions of gold and people with just a few thousands. A flask takes tons of mats to make, and they will sell for well over 10k gold each, so the casual players won't afford them. When people realize that the rich guys will always take buying from the AH over farming their own mats, the prices will go even higher, then casuals will notice how expensive flasks are, and they will pick up alchemy and make more flasks, driving the prices down again.

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My second most anticipated new feature in the Tides of Vengeance update is the Battle for Darkshore Warfront. It’s the second cyclical battle between the Horde and Alliance, in which each faction takes turns gathering resources, fighting in a pitched raid battle and then controlling the Darkshore zone. In what I hope will be an improvement to the Warfronts feature, the controlling faction will gain access to diverse world quests in the zones they control, rather than the “kill x of y” quests from when it first launched.

Yes, that is easy, but it's not quick. Further down in my comments to OP I detailed the GIO farm, and reasonable yield expectations. I looked up a few guides/videos before commenting and most of them estimate a yield beween 800-1,000 GIO/hour. That lines up with my past experience with it as well. That'd be, taking the high yield end, 4.2 hours to farm the GIO for one toon's monthly needs.
Even then, margins are much better if you start with ghost iron ore, smelt it and transmute it with a transmute master. Every trillium proc is an extra 500g free, every LS proc is an extra 3000g. If you're just buying 30 living steel there is no profit when you account for jards energy sources being about 700g a piece on some servers. 4200 Ghost iron ore is what you need. Arrange your toons with professions to max that out.
JC Panthers: Instead of breaking them all down like I did with the golem, I'll just note that currently on my server the Orb of Mystery and the Living Steel combined cost 36,000g. All of the panthers, except the Onyx, sell for 32,000g. A loss of 4,000g/unit, not including the gems. Once we factor those in, at a mean value of ~200g/unit, the loss per Panther jumps to 8,000g.

The point is the sale price never be the same, and never will, as entropy increases further, the sale price will always drop, since its something that people get and they forget, there inst any reason to buy more than one. So your margins will always be lower than yesterday, if you want to keep your income (more effort same reward), furthermore add scrapbot to the formula and your margins will be lower.
But every new character made that wants to craft old expansion stuff will have to level using expansion specific materials. Stocking up on profession materials that are already high in demand can be a great idea. This will primarily be materials used to craft the various mounts. Ghost Iron, Trillium, Living Steel, Pyrium etc. are all great candidates to stock up on.
Crafting (Blacksmithing, Tailoring, Leatherworking) – When it comes to endgame, I always found crafting to be very dependent on the level of gear you can produce. There have been times when the crafted gear was competitive with the gear you could get in the open world and during those times I always had success. Then there are the dead times when the game gear vastly out levels anything you can craft. There still is time before BfA launch for the devs to make more changes, so I am not sure where crafting is going to come out this time. Whatever they do, I have always made some gold selling transmog and Blacksmithing has shined in this area for me. Many folks don’t take the time to collect old rare recipes which can leave few competitors. Transmog never sells fast, but it can work.
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Azerite equipment is currently balanced around being able to unlock the outermost, earliest tier of power immediately upon acquisition, while delaying further advancement until the Heart has been further empowered. For example, the first piece of Azerite equipment, gained shortly after the Heart itself, is fully empowered once the Heart of Azeroth has reached level 3. A character at 120 (the maximum for the expansion) may find a piece whose first tier requires the Heart to have grown to level 12 or greater.

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Otherwise, its a pretty lackluster expansion profession-wise as there are no useful sellable gear besides Inscription trinkets. Legion had good and variety stat gear across all professions (JC could make BiS socket-rings, now JC is the worst proff ever, so sad). I hope they change stuff soon but I'm not optimistic about it. You should probably level Pandaria Engineering and Alchemy as much as you can on your characters and invest in Ghost Iron Bar/Trillium Bar transmutes to either sell Living Steel or hold them to craft Sky Golem (30-40k profit each char per month). It's hard to maintain a steady flow of GIB/TB though. I "only" have 6 engineers and my stock drys up pretty quickly.

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Disagree with your comments on Sky Golem. You need about 4200 ghost iron ore make this. Ghost Iron ore turns into bars which are used for Jard's Power source, but you only need 300 bars for that. You also need living steel which is transmuted from triullium, which in turn is transmuted from ghost iron. If you have an transmute master you proc on average about 20 additional trillium bars, that's like 7000g in savings.
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What am I supposed to do now? Is there a way to get the curse client working again? I've googled it but haven't found any useful results. Do I have to uninstall & re-install it from scratch? Has the Curse client been taken permanently offline, meaning that it's no longer viable software? Do I have to install a Twitch client and manage my WoW addons from there? If so, do I have to re-install all my addons from scratch, or will they somehow carry over from Curse to Twitch?
I think what you're actually talking about when you say "niche" is the barrier to entry for new players. It sounds like you're worried that new players can pick up crafting professions and compete easier than before. Again, I'd say that the alpha build info in the OP looks pretty much the same as the current expansion. The true barrier to entry isn't the ability to level the profession quickly, it's actually recipe ranks. Some really good examples of this in the current expansion are rank 3 bracers, rank 3 flasks, and rank 3 felwort. It takes a certain level of investment to get those ranks, and the goblin activities related to those crafts simply aren't profitable/competitive without rank 3.
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Blizzard need to kill professions off as a core game element, because professions stand between players and the portal of an instance. They have been doing it since Warlords. Professions also provide one extra level of player choice and freedom that needs to be tightly contained; they don't want people having to buy enchants and gems beyond what is necessary to keep some pretense at existence.
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About the Blacksmithing, Leatherworking and Engineering professions; I feel like crafted gears are fairly different in BFA and not nearly as strong as it was in Legion. That’s why these three professions are at the bottom. Only reasonable things that come out of these professions are mounts. Engineers have Mecha-Mogul Mk2 which is a pretty good-looking mount but every engineer will try to make and sell mount, so I feel like the market is gonna have a lot of competition for that.
Strictly speaking, reselling items is not making gold. At best, you are "making gold" for yourself. There has been huge deflation with BfA launch (check token value lol) and personally I really want to see how Blizzard "economy" team is going to react, because effects of deflation are ranging from bad to terrible. No idea what is this experiment about?

Still, it’s terrible to see the new expansion fail so spectacularly at iterating on Legion’s success. It’s hard to believe the two expansions came from the same company. Legion made you feel powerful and unique. Battle for Azeroth grinds at you by taking away as much as it gives. Sure, you can have a shiny toy. Sometimes. If you don’t get too carried away.
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But every new character made that wants to craft old expansion stuff will have to level using expansion specific materials. Stocking up on profession materials that are already high in demand can be a great idea. This will primarily be materials used to craft the various mounts. Ghost Iron, Trillium, Living Steel, Pyrium etc. are all great candidates to stock up on.
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You will get the recipes for these high level armors through a new discovery system. First you have to craft the base ilvl 355 armor (normal raid ilvl) which requires BfA Leatherworking 115. After you craft this armor, you will discover a new recipe, which is ilvl 370 (heroic raid ilvl), and after you craft one from the ilvl 370 armor, you will discover a new recipe for an ilvl 385 armor (mythic raid ilvl).
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Unfortunately this game misses the mark. The visual and audio experiences are truly this expansions only carry. The questing is the same as itUnfortunately this game misses the mark. The visual and audio experiences are truly this expansions only carry. The questing is the same as it has always been, artifacts and world quests aren't new, more skills taken away from the last expansion (nothing new added to replace them). Island Expeditions, the heralded new feature, is a complete letdown; it's just a scenario with a timer on it. The story is jarring and feels out of place somehow. For a full priced game (that's just an expansion) I can't help but feel a bit ripped off.… Expand
Blacksmith, Tailoring, Leatherworking all can create their own BoP gear like before with Blacksmithing able to potentially create indestructible versions and can repair in the field instantly (not that big), while Tailoring gets specific cloak enchants with some unique effects like not being able to to be dazed which is going to be very useful for Tailoring/Herbalists.
Allied races aren’t much better. You can only earn them by grinding out reputation. It doesn’t take that long but casual players will need to invest a couple weeks primarily to it, and focusing on that grind will take you away from others, like earning gear. Each race has its own grind, but the things you do to work through it remain the same, adding to your boredom.
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